Roberto Gaggioli is a piece of crap

DanSchmatz

Nope, no defending anyone. I didn't even comment on what happened after the
race since I didn't see it. Of course swinging a 2x4 at anyone (unless your in
the wwf) is unacceptable but since I wasn't there to see it I left it alone.

I will say I am glad he didn't do anything straight away when I (or you) may
have gotten tangled in it.

dan

Benjamin Weiner

Bob Schwartz <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote:
> Rondechampion <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote:
> > USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.

> Were there no cops at the race?

> I don't see where USAC has a role if the cops don't.

I have no knowledge of the facts or people involved, but USAC
does have an interest in rider comportment, or whatever it's
called. USCF rule 1.O.5. Abuse
(c) No licensee may assault [...] or do battery [...] to anyone
connected with any event (including but not limited to riders,
officials, spectators, public officials, etc.) held under a
USA Cycling permit [disqualified and suspended for one year]

I'm sure this rule isn't always enforced. Depends on the
egregiousness of the offense. And the number and importance
of the witnesses. IIRC, a couple of years ago, Nothstein got
kicked off a start line for having cussed at a cop while
warming up.

JTN

every year something of this sort comes up. always when the heat of summer
starts rising. interesting study could be made im sure.
heat and testosterone mixing could be volatile....



"Rondechampion" <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040502125419.15149.00000592@mb-m17.aol.com...
> Last night at the crit in Anniston, Al he attacked Johnny Sundt with a
2x4. He
> was upset about some of the meaningless crap that happens during bike
races and
> he tried to assult Johnny.
>
> He caved in the down tube on Johnny's bike when Johnny used to bike to
protect
> himself.
>
> This guy is a piece of crap and deserves to be suspended for a long time.
>
> He pulled a similar stunt a few years when he threw his bike at another
riders
> head and cut his head with the chainring.
>
> I wish this guy would just go away.
>
> USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.
>
> the real rondechampion

Chris

"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
news:109armt5cip7c6a@corp.supernews.com...
> Rondechampion <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote:
> > USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.
>
> Were there no cops at the race?

It does not sound like there were any law enforcement witnesses, but how
often is that the case?

> I don't see where USAC has a role if the cops don't.

Clearly the "cops" would have a role it it was reported. Also, note that
Americans under their constitution can seek relief in civil actions if they
wish without the obligation to have law inforcement involved. It is
certainly a good idea in most cases to have them do most of the
investigation, but it is not a requirment.

>
> Bob Schwartz
> cvcc@execpc.com

Carl Sundquist

"Chris" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
> news:109armt5cip7c6a@corp.supernews.com...
> > Rondechampion <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote:
> > > USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.
> >
> > Were there no cops at the race?
>
> It does not sound like there were any law enforcement witnesses, but how
> often is that the case?
>
> > I don't see where USAC has a role if the cops don't.
>
> Clearly the "cops" would have a role it it was reported. Also, note that
> Americans under their constitution can seek relief in civil actions if
they
> wish without the obligation to have law inforcement involved. It is
> certainly a good idea in most cases to have them do most of the
> investigation, but it is not a requirment.
>
> >

What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson and broke his skull?

TritonRider

>From: "Carl Sundquist" carlsun@cox-internet.com

>What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson and broke his skull?

It really depends on whether the cops want to help too. I had a car pass me on
the right in the breakdown lane, cut left in front of me across the back of the
field, go across a double yellow then cut back into the lane just barely
missing the front of the field. This was near the start finish and I got the
cars Plate, make, model and color. I had gave it to one of the cops within 2
minutes of the incident, and the car had just passed him, his comment was
"Yeah, what do you want me to do about it?" I told him that I thought the
driver had endagered everyone, and he said "Thats, your opinion." Seeing where
this was going I went and found one of the State Police and they at least took
a report along with making some really nasty comments about local yokel
imitation cops, but in the end nothing ever happened that I heard of.
Sometimes, even if they see it, they don't do shit.
Bill C

Roger Ramjet

Another reason to ban Italians from professional cyclingl.

"Rondechampion" <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040502125419.15149.00000592@mb-m17.aol.com...
> Last night at the crit in Anniston, Al he attacked Johnny Sundt with a
2x4. He
> was upset about some of the meaningless crap that happens during bike
races and
> he tried to assult Johnny.
>
> He caved in the down tube on Johnny's bike when Johnny used to bike to
protect
> himself.
>
> This guy is a piece of crap and deserves to be suspended for a long time.
>
> He pulled a similar stunt a few years when he threw his bike at another
riders
> head and cut his head with the chainring.
>
> I wish this guy would just go away.
>
> USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.
>
> the real rondechampion

Fred

Offend connections to Gag or to crap?

"Rik Van Diesel" <metalkprettyoneday@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:83021f87.0405041315.5df55072@posting.google.com...
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<7Dglc.3264$Hs1.169@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> > Roberto is a lot of things but he doesn't get violent for no reason. I
think
> > it likely that Sundt did more than "some ~ meaningless crap" to upset
> > Gaggioli.
>
>
> Gag is a piece of crap. To say anything else to speak is to speak out
> of your ass. Unless you don't want to offend you connections.

Bob Schwartz

Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
> What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson and broke his skull?

Statements were taken and charges were filed. At one point a warrant
was issued for Mercer's arrest. This was about the time that Adam
stopped posting and he wasn't public about the resolution.

Bob Schwartz
cvcc@execpc.com

Tom Kunich

"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
news:109f9v3553uc228@corp.supernews.com...
> Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
> > What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson and broke his
skull?
>
> Statements were taken and charges were filed. At one point a warrant
> was issued for Mercer's arrest. This was about the time that Adam
> stopped posting and he wasn't public about the resolution.

He may not even know.

Adizzle

Rumor has it that he attacked Eddie Gragus with a saw horse a few
years back and also ended the career of another rider named John
Brady. Greasy ponytailed idiot burnout.

Glad Sundt got a few licks in on him before they pulled him of of
Roberto. I'm sure there will be a special barrier or curb he'll
choose just for Roberto in the next race.


rondechampion@aol.com (Rondechampion) wrote in message news:<20040502125419.15149.00000592@mb-m17.aol.com>...
> Last night at the crit in Anniston, Al he attacked Johnny Sundt with a 2x4. He
> was upset about some of the meaningless crap that happens during bike races and
> he tried to assult Johnny.
>
> He caved in the down tube on Johnny's bike when Johnny used to bike to protect
> himself.
>
> This guy is a piece of crap and deserves to be suspended for a long time.
>
> He pulled a similar stunt a few years when he threw his bike at another riders
> head and cut his head with the chainring.
>
> I wish this guy would just go away.
>
> USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.
>
> the real rondechampion

Adizzle

Testosterone, is that code for steroids??!

danschmatz@aol.com (DanSchmatz) wrote in message news:<20040503004438.06424.00000404@mb-m25.aol.com>...
> Nope, no defending anyone. I didn't even comment on what happened after the
> race since I didn't see it. Of course swinging a 2x4 at anyone (unless your in
> the wwf) is unacceptable but since I wasn't there to see it I left it alone.
>
> I will say I am glad he didn't do anything straight away when I (or you) may
> have gotten tangled in it.
>
> dan

Alex Rodriguez

In article <J_Nlc.6549$Hs1.5339@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
cyclintom@yahoo.com says...
>"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
>news:109f9v3553uc228@corp.supernews.com...
>> Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
>> > What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson and broke his
>skull?
>> Statements were taken and charges were filed. At one point a warrant
>> was issued for Mercer's arrest. This was about the time that Adam
>> stopped posting and he wasn't public about the resolution.
>He may not even know.

If he does not know, then probably nothing happened. In order to convict
they probably needed him to testify.
------------------
Alex

Tom Arsenault

"Roger Ramjet" <not@this.time> wrote in message news:<CbBlc.112501$Gd3.27320942@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
> Another reason to ban Italians from professional cyclingl.
>
> "Rondechampion" <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040502125419.15149.00000592@mb-m17.aol.com...
> > Last night at the crit in Anniston, Al he attacked Johnny Sundt with a
> 2x4. He
> > was upset about some of the meaningless crap that happens during bike
> races and
> > he tried to assult Johnny.
> >
> > He caved in the down tube on Johnny's bike when Johnny used to bike to
> protect
> > himself.
> >
> > This guy is a piece of crap and deserves to be suspended for a long time.
> >
> > He pulled a similar stunt a few years when he threw his bike at another
> riders
> > head and cut his head with the chainring.
> >
> > I wish this guy would just go away.
> >
> > USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.
> >
> > the real rondechampion

I've had several teammates current and past that have had run-ins with
Sundt during a race, and he's always super nasty to the amateurs in
the field. If you're not pro, he doesn't think you should be there,
or should at least get out of HIS way. Oh well, natural selection
will take care of things I'm sure.

Tom