Is Kerry a Fred?

Henry Etta

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message

> At least he rides. Acording to the article from the original link he
> does ride as often as he can.

I can't wait until he in the White House to see a squad of Secret Service
Agents in his peloton. <G>

Henry Etta
>
> Clinton and Bush used to run. After a while in the Whitehouse much
> less of that was seen from either.

Henry Etta

"JP" <SocSecTrainWreck@earthlink.net> wrote in message > Compare to Bush
falling off of a Segway:
>
> http://www.bikexprt.com/witness/product/bushfalls.htm
>
> JP

Is that Bush's bicycle in the background?

Henry Etta

TritonRider

>From: "Henry Etta" Etta@etta.com

>Is that Bush's bicycle in the background?
>
>Henry Etta
>

Can't be, not enough wheels to be his human powered cycle, and the moped is
out in the garage with the limo.
Bill C

Richard Adams

"Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com> wrote in message news:<BCBB856C.2F6C8%stevens@veloworks.com>...
> On 05/03/2004 04:25 AM, in article
> c3559fe7.0405030225.b15d4d0@posting.google.com, "otto" <berchotto@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:<5%jlc.3560$Hs1.512@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> >> http://www.boston.com/news/politics...2004/05/02/kerr
> >> y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF
> >>
> >> At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
> >> ----------
> >
> > http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bi...=20040502SRS101
> >
> > serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you
> > decide.
>
>
> I'll bet the t-shirts are simply campaign tools for photo ops. If he wasn't
> currently on the campaign trail, there'd be a jersey instead of a t-shirt.
>
> http://www.campyonly.com/images/rum...ry-shimano.jpeg
>
> Looks like a long-sleeve jersey under that t-shirt ...

Longsleeve OGWGFIW jersey?

Hey, he's modestly decked out. Imagine how preposterous that would
look with carbon or trispoke wheels. At least he's got good taste in
bikes ... could have been an old Varsity...

TM

"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5%jlc.3560$Hs1.512@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Is he riding the bike for votes? Yes.

Is he riding the bike even if it costs him votes? No.

RWM

"TM" <lkjd@lkjk.com> wrote in message
news:109dq27n27lg3f3@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5%jlc.3560$Hs1.512@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> Is he riding the bike for votes? Yes.
>
> Is he riding the bike even if it costs him votes? No.
>
He is a long time rider..and not doing it just for show. I believe that he
has participated in a Jimmy Fund Annual Fundraiser in MA many times. It
offers different routes but the main one is Sturbridge to Provincetown. The
one thing I don't like is that his office sent out a press release last year
that he was the thirty something finisher. Unless things have changed, I
don't think that there is any race component in the event. Saying that you
finished 37th is really lame if it wasn't a race. It is easy to beat people
when they don't know that they are racing.

TritonRider

>From: "RWM" bobmcbXXX@exmsft.com

>He is a long time rider..and not doing it just for show. I believe that he
>has participated in a Jimmy Fund Annual Fundraiser in MA many times. It
>offers different routes but the main one is Sturbridge to Provincetown. The
>one thing I don't like is that his office sent out a press release last year
>that he was the thirty something finisher. Unless things have changed, I
>don't think that there is any race component in the event. Saying that you
>finished 37th is really lame if it wasn't a race. It is easy to beat people
>when they don't know that they are racing.

I'm not a Kerry fan by any stretch of the imagination, but at least he's out
riding. Maybe if he's elected we wont have to fight so hard for ISTEA, and
cycling provisions every year.
Bill C

RWM

"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040503213258.07015.00000678@mb-m24.aol.com...
> >From: "RWM" bobmcbXXX@exmsft.com
>
> >He is a long time rider..and not doing it just for show. I believe that
he
> >has participated in a Jimmy Fund Annual Fundraiser in MA many times. It
> >offers different routes but the main one is Sturbridge to Provincetown.
The
> >one thing I don't like is that his office sent out a press release last
year
> >that he was the thirty something finisher. Unless things have changed, I
> >don't think that there is any race component in the event. Saying that
you
> >finished 37th is really lame if it wasn't a race. It is easy to beat
people
> >when they don't know that they are racing.
>
> I'm not a Kerry fan by any stretch of the imagination, but at least he's
out
> riding. Maybe if he's elected we wont have to fight so hard for ISTEA, and
> cycling provisions every year.
> Bill C

I agree that it would be great to have a cycling president

Henry Etta

"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040503213258.07015.00000678@mb-m24.aol.com...
> >From: "RWM" bobmcbXXX@exmsft.com
>
>>He is a long time rider..and not doing it just for show. I believe that
>>he
>>has participated in a Jimmy Fund Annual Fundraiser in MA many times. It
>>offers different routes but the main one is Sturbridge to Provincetown.
>>The
>>one thing I don't like is that his office sent out a press release last
>>year
>>that he was the thirty something finisher. Unless things have changed, I
>>don't think that there is any race component in the event. Saying that
>>you
>>finished 37th is really lame if it wasn't a race. It is easy to beat
>>people
>>when they don't know that they are racing.
>
> I'm not a Kerry fan by any stretch of the imagination, but at least he's
> out
> riding. Maybe if he's elected we wont have to fight so hard for ISTEA, and
> cycling provisions every year.
> Bill C

I hear that Kerry is getting a tandem and is going to enlist Ted Kennedy as
stoker! <G>

Henry Etta

Ryan Cousineau

In article <c2352af0.0405030950.58974606@posting.google.com>,
ackthpt@concentric.net (Richard Adams) wrote:

> "Gooserider" <noway@mousepotato.com> wrote in message
> news:<gtplc.510356$B81.9260438@twister.tampabay.rr.com>...
> > "otto" <berchotto@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:c3559fe7.0405030225.b15d4d0@posting.google.com...
> > > "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:<5%jlc.3560$Hs1.512@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

> > > http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bi...=20040502SRS101
> > >
> > > serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you
> > decide.
> >
> > Yeah he's a Fred. I can't believe his PR people don't have him on a USPS
> > Trek 5900 and USPS team kit. Or would that be even more Fredly?

> At least he rides. Acording to the article from the original link he
> does ride as often as he can.
>
> Clinton and Bush used to run. After a while in the Whitehouse much
> less of that was seen from either.

By all accounts Bush is still a pretty habitual runner; he may do more
treadmill work these days, or it may just be that the 50th photo of the
President out for his morning jog isn't very newsworthy.

At least the exercise routines that Bush and Kerry use seem to work.

But, will Kerry ride to work if he becomes President?
--
Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine/wiredcola/
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Gooserider

"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
news:rcousine-949DFE.21254703052004@morgoth.sfu.ca...
> In article <c2352af0.0405030950.58974606@posting.google.com>,
> ackthpt@concentric.net (Richard Adams) wrote:
>
> > "Gooserider" <noway@mousepotato.com> wrote in message
> > news:<gtplc.510356$B81.9260438@twister.tampabay.rr.com>...
> > > "otto" <berchotto@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c3559fe7.0405030225.b15d4d0@posting.google.com...
> > > > "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<5%jlc.3560$Hs1.512@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
>
> > > > http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bi...=20040502SRS101
> > > >
> > > > serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt.
you
> > > decide.
> > >
> > > Yeah he's a Fred. I can't believe his PR people don't have him on a
USPS
> > > Trek 5900 and USPS team kit. Or would that be even more Fredly?
>
> > At least he rides. Acording to the article from the original link he
> > does ride as often as he can.
> >
> > Clinton and Bush used to run. After a while in the Whitehouse much
> > less of that was seen from either.
>
> By all accounts Bush is still a pretty habitual runner; he may do more
> treadmill work these days, or it may just be that the 50th photo of the
> President out for his morning jog isn't very newsworthy.
>
> At least the exercise routines that Bush and Kerry use seem to work.
>
> But, will Kerry ride to work if he becomes President?
>
Bush is also a gym rat. Big lifter. Doesnt' look like Kerry knows a dumbbell
from a dinner bell. Did you see how scrawny his legs are? Get that man to
the squat rack, pronto. :-)

JP

"Chris" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<4096a526$0$35067$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com>...
> "MortDubois" <mortdubois@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c175aa3f.0405030852.a895854@posting.google.com...
> > He's not a Fred. I would just say he's a guy on a bike, happens to
> > have a nice frame, so just let him ride w/o judgement.
>
> As stated eslewhere makes you a Fred too.
>
> > (Maybe there
> > should be another word for people who don't particulary care if they
> > have the perfect bike/clothing/accessory setup, and would rather
> > ride.)
>
> We already have a word for that, now don't we? You miss the point entirely.
> Anyone that buys a race bike and uses it to tool around is a Fred.

If you can afford a nice bike and you like it, that's what you should
ride, even if it's a racing bike. Racing bikes feel good, they feel
fast.

> > Freds aren't the menace that you would think from reading this
> > NG. In my experience, stuck up asshole racers far outnumber Freds,
> > and do a lot more to harm the sport.
> >
> > Mort
>
> This is true, but they are still Freds.

A Fred is anyone that you can find an excuse to feel superior to, even
if they are faster than you.

JP

Richard Adams

Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> In article <c2352af0.0405030950.58974606@posting.google.com>,
> ackthpt@concentric.net (Richard Adams) wrote:
>
>
>>"Gooserider" <noway@mousepotato.com> wrote in message
>>news:<gtplc.510356$B81.9260438@twister.tampabay.rr.com>...
>>
>>>"otto" <berchotto@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:c3559fe7.0405030225.b15d4d0@posting.google.com...
>>>
>>>>"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:<5%jlc.3560$Hs1.512@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
>
>
>>>>http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bi...=20040502SRS101
>>>>
>>>>serotta bike, what looks like assos shorts, matched with a t-shirt. you
>>>
>>>decide.
>>>
>>>Yeah he's a Fred. I can't believe his PR people don't have him on a USPS
>>>Trek 5900 and USPS team kit. Or would that be even more Fredly?
>
>
>>At least he rides. Acording to the article from the original link he
>>does ride as often as he can.
>>
>>Clinton and Bush used to run. After a while in the Whitehouse much
>>less of that was seen from either.
>
>
> By all accounts Bush is still a pretty habitual runner; he may do more
> treadmill work these days, or it may just be that the 50th photo of the
> President out for his morning jog isn't very newsworthy.
>
> At least the exercise routines that Bush and Kerry use seem to work.
>
> But, will Kerry ride to work if he becomes President?

You know they have tunnels and stuff under the Whitehouse. Maybe he'll
get a subterranean velodrome put in and he and the Sekrit Service agents
will ride crits!

Richard Adams

JP wrote:

> "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<5%jlc.3560$Hs1.512@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
>
>>http://www.boston.com/news/politics...2004/05/02/kerr
>>y_uninjured_in_fall_from_bicycle?mode=PF
>>
>>At least he didn't blame the secret service agents.
>>----------
>>
>>This story would be of great interest to rbr participants I would suspect
>>http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGALVR3VRTD.html
>
>
> Compare to Bush falling off of a Segway:
>
> http://www.bikexprt.com/witness/product/bushfalls.htm
>
> JP

Probably lost some equillibrium thanks to the 20 years of drug and
alcohol abuse before he 'grew up' at forty.