Brad McGhee on drugs...

Steve McGinty

....in pro cycling . Excellent interview by Richard Moore in "Scotland
on Sunday" last weekend

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.co...&20040502200622

(long article)

Regards!
Stephen

Jeff Jones

"Steve McGinty" <steve_DOT_mcginty@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> ...in pro cycling . Excellent interview by Richard Moore in "Scotland
> on Sunday" last weekend
>
> http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.co...&20040502200622
>
That is a good read. McGee is a very articulate, geniune and straightforward
guy. I remember him as a 16 year old doing times in TTs that rivalled the
best elite riders in the AIS at the time. The rest of the juniors didn't
stand a chance. I think Brad was one of the youngest of a set of cycling
brothers (Rod, Andrew, Craig, possibly another one) and although they were
all talented, he seemed to have been dealt the best hand.

Jeff

Richard Adams

Steve McGinty <steve_DOT_mcginty@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<p42l90p1eu3glk282hcigof3qvicm8tdnv@4ax.com>...
> ...in pro cycling . Excellent interview by Richard Moore in "Scotland
> on Sunday" last weekend
>
> http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.co...&20040502200622
>
> (long article)
>
> Regards!
> Stephen

For Brad's Page this refers to:

http://www.bradleymcgee.com/Bradmcg...ves1.php?id=254

chris

I spotted one glaring mistake:

The highest on record is 93, by the Scandinavian cross country skier
Steve Prefontaine.

Prefontaine was the greatest runner who never was. He died before he
achieved anything truly great, but still managed to make his mark.
How anyone could screw that up with the Scandanvian (don't recall his
name, so I guess VO2 max isn't everything) is beyond me but I have to
wonder how well researched the article was now.

Chris "I always read the fine print" Harnish
Coach and house builder

Steve McGinty <steve_DOT_mcginty@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<p42l90p1eu3glk282hcigof3qvicm8tdnv@4ax.com>...
> ...in pro cycling . Excellent interview by Richard Moore in "Scotland
> on Sunday" last weekend
>
> http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.co...&20040502200622
>
> (long article)
>
> Regards!
> Stephen

Richard Adams

Steve McGinty <steve_DOT_mcginty@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<p42l90p1eu3glk282hcigof3qvicm8tdnv@4ax.com>...
> ...in pro cycling . Excellent interview by Richard Moore in "Scotland
> on Sunday" last weekend
>
> http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.co...&20040502200622
>
> (long article)
>
> Regards!
> Stephen

For Brad's Page this refers to:

http://www.bradleymcgee.com/Bradmcg...ves1.php?id=254

Carl Sundquist

"chris" <excel_sports@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> How anyone could screw that up with the Scandanvian (don't recall his
> name, so I guess VO2 max isn't everything) is beyond me but I have to
> wonder how well researched the article was now.
>

Lasse Viren

Carl Sundquist

"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "chris" <excel_sports@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > How anyone could screw that up with the Scandanvian (don't recall his
> > name, so I guess VO2 max isn't everything) is beyond me but I have to
> > wonder how well researched the article was now.
> >
>
> Lasse Viren
>
Sorry, I was thinking of Prefontaine's nemesis.

The skier was probably Bjorn Dahle.

warren

In article <109lpt8kul43bf3@corp.supernews.com>, Carl Sundquist
<carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:

> "Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
> news:109lo0h3cejpc16@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "chris" <excel_sports@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > How anyone could screw that up with the Scandanvian (don't recall his
> > > name, so I guess VO2 max isn't everything) is beyond me but I have to
> > > wonder how well researched the article was now.
> > >
> >
> > Lasse Viren

....Was a 5000m runner.

> >
> Sorry, I was thinking of Prefontaine's nemesis.
>
> The skier was probably Bjorn Dahle.

It may have been Gunde Svan of Sweden. He may have been even better
than Dahle.

-WG

Steve McGinty

On 6 May 2004 16:06:02 -0700, excel_sports@hotmail.com (chris) wrote:

>I spotted one glaring mistake:
>
>The highest on record is 93, by the Scandinavian cross country skier
>Steve Prefontaine.
>
>Prefontaine was the greatest runner who never was. He died before he
>achieved anything truly great, but still managed to make his mark.
>How anyone could screw that up with the Scandanvian (don't recall his
>name, so I guess VO2 max isn't everything) is beyond me but I have to
>wonder how well researched the article was now.
>
Yeah, I spotted that too, but Richard Moore was an international class
rider himself, so he knows the bike game.


Regards!
Stephen

Hjalmar Duklæt

"warren" <warren@usvhremove.com> wrote in message
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> In article <109lpt8kul43bf3@corp.supernews.com>, Carl Sundquist
> <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
>
> > "Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
> > news:109lo0h3cejpc16@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > > "chris" <excel_sports@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > How anyone could screw that up with the Scandanvian (don't recall
his
> > > > name, so I guess VO2 max isn't everything) is beyond me but I have
to
> > > > wonder how well researched the article was now.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Lasse Viren
>
> ...Was a 5000m runner.
>
> > >
> > Sorry, I was thinking of Prefontaine's nemesis.
> >
> > The skier was probably Bjorn Dahle.
>
> It may have been Gunde Svan of Sweden. He may have been even better
> than Dahle.
>
> -WG

No way! Definitely Bjoern Dahlie

Hjalmar (Norwegian)

B. Lafferty

"Steve McGinty" <steve_DOT_mcginty@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> ...in pro cycling . Excellent interview by Richard Moore in "Scotland
> on Sunday" last weekend
>
> http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.co...&20040502200622
>
> (long article)
>
> Regards!
> Stephen

Interesting article. Sadly, McGhee is clearly caught in the bind of
claiming to be clean in a sport that is rife with cheaters. Unfairly, or
not, he is dealing with the taint of drug use in cycling as is every clean
rider. The fact that he says his team won't look to hire any young riders
from Italy or Spain is a telling indictment of the failure of cycling to
gain control of drugs in the sport. If the sport were 95% clean as Hein
claims, I doubt that McGhee and his team would have to make such a
decision.

Jonathan v.d. Sluis

B. Lafferty <Magni@Italia.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
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>
> "Steve McGinty" <steve_DOT_mcginty@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news42l90p1eu3glk282hcigof3qvicm8tdnv@4ax.com...
> > ...in pro cycling . Excellent interview by Richard Moore in "Scotland
> > on Sunday" last weekend
> >
> >
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.co...&20040502200622
> >
> > (long article)
> >
> > Regards!
> > Stephen
>
> Interesting article. Sadly, McGhee is clearly caught in the bind of
> claiming to be clean in a sport that is rife with cheaters. Unfairly, or
> not, he is dealing with the taint of drug use in cycling as is every clean
> rider. The fact that he says his team won't look to hire any young riders
> from Italy or Spain is a telling indictment of the failure of cycling to
> gain control of drugs in the sport. If the sport were 95% clean as Hein
> claims, I doubt that McGhee and his team would have to make such a
> decision.

I think it is very naive to select riders based on nationality and then
expect that they are less likely to use doping, if that is what you mean.
Most of the big cases, where there was an actual network rather than
individual riders, were outside Italy, and Kelme is the only big Spanish
case I can think of. I'd like to mention the cases of Cofidis, TVM, Landuyt,
Festina, VDB/Mabuse, etc.

Jonathan.

B. Lafferty

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> >
> > "Steve McGinty" <steve_DOT_mcginty@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news42l90p1eu3glk282hcigof3qvicm8tdnv@4ax.com...
> > > ...in pro cycling . Excellent interview by Richard Moore in "Scotland
> > > on Sunday" last weekend
> > >
> > >
> http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.co...&20040502200622
> > >
> > > (long article)
> > >
> > > Regards!
> > > Stephen
> >
> > Interesting article. Sadly, McGhee is clearly caught in the bind of
> > claiming to be clean in a sport that is rife with cheaters. Unfairly, or
> > not, he is dealing with the taint of drug use in cycling as is every
clean
> > rider. The fact that he says his team won't look to hire any young
riders
> > from Italy or Spain is a telling indictment of the failure of cycling to
> > gain control of drugs in the sport. If the sport were 95% clean as Hein
> > claims, I doubt that McGhee and his team would have to make such a
> > decision.
>
> I think it is very naive to select riders based on nationality and then
> expect that they are less likely to use doping, if that is what you mean.
> Most of the big cases, where there was an actual network rather than
> individual riders, were outside Italy, and Kelme is the only big Spanish
> case I can think of. I'd like to mention the cases of Cofidis, TVM,
Landuyt,
> Festina, VDB/Mabuse, etc.
>
> Jonathan.

I lean toward agreeing with you, except that it could be that the
insdiers in the sport know far more about the doping situation than the
general sporting public.

JTN

exactly. this is why I laugh when I read how many people think you are full
of shit about the drug abuse. if they only knew.....lolololo



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> I lean toward agreeing with you, except that it could be that the
> insdiers in the sport know far more about the doping situation than the
> general sporting public.
>
>