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Freddie has his day! w00t!

 
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Old 18-05.-2004, 12:15 AM   #1
Richard Adams
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Default Freddie has his day! w00t!

From CN:

Results

1 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Acquea & Sapone
2 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Fassa Bortolo
3 Angelo Furlan (Ita) Alessio-Bianchi
4 Robbie McEwen (Aus) Lotto-Domo
5 Andris Nauduzs (Lat) Domina Vacanze
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Old 18-05.-2004, 01:34 AM   #2
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"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:c2352af0.0405170715.362da3f7@posting.google.com...
> From CN:
>
> Results
>
> 1 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Acquea & Sapone
> 2 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Fassa Bortolo
> 3 Angelo Furlan (Ita) Alessio-Bianchi
> 4 Robbie McEwen (Aus) Lotto-Domo
> 5 Andris Nauduzs (Lat) Domina Vacanze


And he came around Petacchi and McWhiner to do it! That's a quality win.

-T



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Old 18-05.-2004, 01:44 AM   #3
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Default 1.Rodriguez 2.Petacchi 3.Furlan

Richard Adams <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote:
> From CN:


> Results


> 1 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Acquea & Sapone
> 2 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Fassa Bortolo
> 3 Angelo Furlan (Ita) Alessio-Bianchi
> 4 Robbie McEwen (Aus) Lotto-Domo
> 5 Andris Nauduzs (Lat) Domina Vacanze


Please show a little courtesy and list the entire
podium in the header, not just the stage winner.

Thanks,

Bob Schwartz
cvcc@execpc.com
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Old 18-05.-2004, 02:09 AM   #4
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Tom Schulenburg wrote:
> "Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:c2352af0.0405170715.362da3f7@posting.google.com...
>
>>From CN:
>>
>>Results
>>
>>1 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Acquea & Sapone
>>2 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Fassa Bortolo
>>3 Angelo Furlan (Ita) Alessio-Bianchi
>>4 Robbie McEwen (Aus) Lotto-Domo
>>5 Andris Nauduzs (Lat) Domina Vacanze

>
>
> And he came around Petacchi and McWhiner to do it! That's a quality win.
>
> -T


Unbelievable.... what's up with that? The guy's been getting like 9th in
the sprint stages.

Amazing.

Dan


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Old 18-05.-2004, 02:15 AM   #5
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"Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote in message
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<SNIP>> >
> > And he came around Petacchi and McWhiner to do it! That's a quality win.
> >
> > -T

>
> Unbelievable.... what's up with that? The guy's been getting like 9th

in
> the sprint stages.
>
> Amazing.
>
> Dan
>


Sounded like he showed some nuts and jumped early. He had 2 bike lengths on
Petacchi and Peta couldn't close the gap fast enough. I think it helped that
it was uphill into the wind.

-T



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Old 18-05.-2004, 02:57 AM   #6
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Tom Schulenburg wrote:
> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote in message
> news:Zk6qc.68027$Wl4.17991@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
> <SNIP>> >
>
>>>And he came around Petacchi and McWhiner to do it! That's a quality win.
>>>
>>>-T

>>
>>Unbelievable.... what's up with that? The guy's been getting like 9th

>
> in
>
>>the sprint stages.
>>
>>Amazing.
>>
>>Dan
>>

>
>
> Sounded like he showed some nuts and jumped early. He had 2 bike lengths on
> Petacchi and Peta couldn't close the gap fast enough. I think it helped that
> it was uphill into the wind.
>
> -T
>
>
>


Usually headwind means to go late, but uphill complicates matters.

Video (currently only a short one) is up at:
http://www.raisport.rai.it/raiSport...23_7354,00.html


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Old 18-05.-2004, 06:26 AM   #7
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Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote in message news:<%17qc.68062$rz4.26960@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>...
> Tom Schulenburg wrote:
> > "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote in message
> > news:Zk6qc.68027$Wl4.17991@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
> > <SNIP>> >
> >
> >>>And he came around Petacchi and McWhiner to do it! That's a quality win.
> >>>
> >>>-T
> >>
> >>Unbelievable.... what's up with that? The guy's been getting like 9th

> >
> > in
> >
> >>the sprint stages.
> >>
> >>Amazing.
> >>
> >>Dan
> >>

> >
> >
> > Sounded like he showed some nuts and jumped early. He had 2 bike lengths on
> > Petacchi and Peta couldn't close the gap fast enough. I think it helped that
> > it was uphill into the wind.
> >
> > -T
> >
> >
> >

>
> Usually headwind means to go late, but uphill complicates matters.
>
> Video (currently only a short one) is up at:
> http://www.raisport.rai.it/raiSport...23_7354,00.html



There is a pretty good clip (including an overhead replay) linked to this page:

http://www.gazzetta.it/Speciali/Gir...ita/index.shtml

Follow the video archive link a little was down the page.
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Old 18-05.-2004, 07:49 AM   #8
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"Tom Schulenburg" <tschulenYOUR@HATpacbell.net> wrote in message news:<oQ5qc.49921$p_.13321@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>...
> "Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:c2352af0.0405170715.362da3f7@posting.google.com...
> > From CN:
> >
> > Results
> >
> > 1 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Acquea & Sapone
> > 2 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Fassa Bortolo
> > 3 Angelo Furlan (Ita) Alessio-Bianchi
> > 4 Robbie McEwen (Aus) Lotto-Domo
> > 5 Andris Nauduzs (Lat) Domina Vacanze

>
> And he came around Petacchi and McWhiner to do it! That's a quality win.
>
> -T


Indeed, nothing cheap about it, a very prestigious win.

A shame for Petacchi he had to feel annoyed about making tactical
errors rather than congratulate Fred on doing something few so far
have done. I guess graciousness doesn't come easy to him.
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Old 18-05.-2004, 08:39 AM   #9
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Richard Adams wrote:
>
> "Tom Schulenburg" <tschulenYOUR@HATpacbell.net> wrote in message news:<oQ5qc.49921$p_.13321@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>...
> > "Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
> > news:c2352af0.0405170715.362da3f7@posting.google.com...
> > > From CN:
> > >
> > > Results
> > >
> > > 1 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Acquea & Sapone
> > > 2 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Fassa Bortolo
> > > 3 Angelo Furlan (Ita) Alessio-Bianchi
> > > 4 Robbie McEwen (Aus) Lotto-Domo
> > > 5 Andris Nauduzs (Lat) Domina Vacanze

> >
> > And he came around Petacchi and McWhiner to do it! That's a quality win.
> >
> > -T

>
> Indeed, nothing cheap about it, a very prestigious win.


i, er, fell asleep until the very end of the race today, and waking up i
was very surprised to see petacchi getting beat. i'm glad i held off
reading rbr until i watched the video! anyway, after i woke up, i
watched the slow mo a few times cause it's so cool to see him just come
out of fourth position and hold everyone off to win

heather
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Old 18-05.-2004, 10:28 AM   #10
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Richard Adams <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote:

> Indeed, nothing cheap about it, a very prestigious win.


It was unfair because McEwen was under scrutiny after
yesterday, so he wasn't allowed to cheat.

> A shame for Petacchi he had to feel annoyed about making tactical
> errors rather than congratulate Fred on doing something few so far
> have done. I guess graciousness doesn't come easy to him.


Comments I've seen from Petacchi have rarely (ever?) been arrogant.
From http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/200...=results/stage9

"Well once in a while, anyone makes a mistake. Fred was smart to
jump early and I probably should have gone earlier and risked a loss -
but I waited and Rodriguez got two bike lengths on me. I came back
really fast but it wasn't enough. He took the risk and he won."

Duking it out in that kind of melee requires a level of self-confidence
that must border on arrogance anyway.

Ben
Not a Sprinter

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Old 18-05.-2004, 03:51 PM   #11
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In article <40a958a9$1@darkstar>, Benjamin Weiner <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org>
wrote:

> Richard Adams <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> > Indeed, nothing cheap about it, a very prestigious win.

>
> It was unfair because McEwen was under scrutiny after
> yesterday, so he wasn't allowed to cheat.


How he figured he'd get away with that one...

>
> > A shame for Petacchi he had to feel annoyed about making tactical
> > errors rather than congratulate Fred on doing something few so far
> > have done. I guess graciousness doesn't come easy to him.

>
> Comments I've seen from Petacchi have rarely (ever?) been arrogant.
> From http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/200...=results/stage9
>
> "Well once in a while, anyone makes a mistake. Fred was smart to
> jump early and I probably should have gone earlier and risked a loss -
> but I waited and Rodriguez got two bike lengths on me. I came back
> really fast but it wasn't enough. He took the risk and he won."


I read that as Petacchi giving Rodriguez credit for doing what he may
have known he should have. Petacchi seems to be a pretty good winner, but
he's not so bad a loser.

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Old 18-05.-2004, 10:07 PM   #12
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Howard Kveck wrote:
>>It was unfair because McEwen was under scrutiny after
>>yesterday, so he wasn't allowed to cheat.


I'm not sure FF would agree:
Then as Fassa came back up to the front, the last guy to come around
me going into the corner was Petacchi. So coming out of the last corner
I found myself on Petacchi's wheel, but right away McEwen - the little
boxer that he is - fought for the wheel. Now in the past, I'd wasted way
too much energy fighting for Petacchi's wheel, so I just settled in on
McEwen's.

from:
http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rid...les/6097.0.html

(BTW, I actually won the VeloNews "pick the stage winner" contest
for Saturday. My pick? Petacchi. Impressive, eh?)


>
>
> How he figured he'd get away with that one...
>


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Old 18-05.-2004, 11:08 PM   #13
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wrote:
> Originally posted by Richard Adams
> A shame for Petacchi he had to feel annoyed about making tactical errors
> rather than congratulate Fred on doing something few so far have done. I
> guess graciousness doesn't come easy to him.




Nothing rivals the well aged wine of Cipollini..."I wanted to come here
with different teamates."

They must love that guy at the team dinners.



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Old 18-05.-2004, 11:10 PM   #14
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wrote:
> Originally posted by Richard Adams
> A shame for Petacchi he had to feel annoyed about making tactical errors
> rather than congratulate Fred on doing something few so far have done. I
> guess graciousness doesn't come easy to him.




Nothing rivals the well aged wine of Cipollini..."I wanted to come here
with different teamates."

They must love that guy at the team dinners.



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Old 19-05.-2004, 02:36 AM   #15
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derby <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:<gPoqc.11920$1l2.11836@fe29.usenetserver.com>...
> wrote:
> > Originally posted by Richard Adams
> > A shame for Petacchi he had to feel annoyed about making tactical errors
> > rather than congratulate Fred on doing something few so far have done. I
> > guess graciousness doesn't come easy to him.

>
>
>
> Nothing rivals the well aged wine of Cipollini..."I wanted to come here
> with different teamates."
>
> They must love that guy at the team dinners.


Considering what Aug did for the team would you blame him? Cipo's the
big dog on that team, no matter how you stack it, his presence keeps
the sponsor's money flowing in and in turn keeps those riders
employed. Bittersweet pill, no doubt, but when you are the marquee
rider and go to a grand tour for one reason only, why not give him the
riders he wants?
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