Post-hill recovery?

Rick Onanian

I stood up. I even upshifted.

Then I huffed...

And I puffed...

And I KICKED THAT HILL'S ASS!

After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my lungs, I
would have screamed like Howard Dean. I scarcely had the ability to
stand. I stood there on somebody's lawn for 5 or 10 minutes while
the burn in my legs competed with the burn in my lungs.

A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow ascent kicked
my ass. I stood halfway up a 40 foot (10 meter) long, barely up
hill, unable to go. I tried to go, and almost fell in a deep, paved
drainage ditch. I had to stand there for at least 5 minutes, for a
hill that I could roll a bowling ball up.

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?
--
Rick Onanian

Chris Zacho The Wheelman

Well first, I don't ride like that. i beat a tough hill the same way the
cooter beat the hare. I sneak up it, without the burn and recover what
little I did use so I can beat the next hill. And the next...


and the next.


the next...


and so on.

- -

"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

Chris'Z Corner
http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

Dan Daniel

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:34:42 -0400, Rick Onanian <spamsink@cox.net>
wrote:


>
>How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

In your case, wait a couple of days. Do it again. A couple of more
days, then again.... In a few weeks you'll barely notice the hill

Sounds like you are simply not in shape for quick recovery from such
an effort. Go slow tomorrow. The more you push yourself like you did
today, the easier it will be the next time.

David Kerber

In article <ga8380168l6j5ck052hkm59avqh4k5c6jt@4ax.com>,
spamsink@cox.net says...
> I stood up. I even upshifted.
>
> Then I huffed...
>
> And I puffed...
>
> And I KICKED THAT HILL'S ASS!

Which hill was that? One I know?

Last night, on what was supposed to be a short recovery ride, I came
across the URI Women's Rowing team running repeats up and back down
Torrey Rd. That gave me the bad idea to do the same thing on my bike,
so I did 2 rounds up and down it. I did want to see how my smaller
cassette would work, and it was ok; I could go up in the 30x21 if I
really pushed hard, but did most of it in the 30x23. I wouldn't want to
try that hill at the end of a long ride, though...


> After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my lungs, I
> would have screamed like Howard Dean. I scarcely had the ability to
> stand. I stood there on somebody's lawn for 5 or 10 minutes while
> the burn in my legs competed with the burn in my lungs.
>
> A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow ascent kicked
> my ass. I stood halfway up a 40 foot (10 meter) long, barely up
> hill, unable to go. I tried to go, and almost fell in a deep, paved
> drainage ditch. I had to stand there for at least 5 minutes, for a
> hill that I could roll a bowling ball up.
>
> How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

Take a long flat to recover. It usually takes me 2 or 3 times as long
to recover as the climb was.

--
Dave Kerber
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David Reuteler

Rick Onanian <spamsink@cox.net> wrote:
> How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

by forgetting to pedal and having my upper body thrust into the stem.
no freewheel, no freewheel. bad dave. bad dave. well, that hasn't
happened in years.
--
david reuteler
reuteler@visi.com

S o r n i

Rick Onanian wrote:

{most excellent story snipped}

> How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

Ambulance ride?

Going in small circles for 45 minutes?

Vomitting good for shaping abs?

Will let you know if I ever do?

Bill "sitter 'n a spinner" S.

Ningi

Rick Onanian wrote:

> I stood up. I even upshifted.
>
> Then I huffed...
>
> And I puffed...
>
> And I KICKED THAT HILL'S ASS!
>
> After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my lungs, I
> would have screamed like Howard Dean. I scarcely had the ability to
> stand. I stood there on somebody's lawn for 5 or 10 minutes while
> the burn in my legs competed with the burn in my lungs.
>
> A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow ascent kicked
> my ass. I stood halfway up a 40 foot (10 meter) long, barely up
> hill, unable to go. I tried to go, and almost fell in a deep, paved
> drainage ditch. I had to stand there for at least 5 minutes, for a
> hill that I could roll a bowling ball up.
>
> How do you recover after beating a tough hill?
> --
> Rick Onanian

I recover by heading to the nearest pub for a beer.

Pete

Terry Morse

Rick Onanian wrote:

> After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my lungs, I
> would have screamed like Howard Dean....
>
> A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow ascent kicked
> my ass....
>
> How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

Well, the best thing to do is not blow your wad on the hill in the
first place. If you have decided to "pop the cork" on a hill, pick a
gear that lets you maintain a reasonable cadence. If you're forced
to stand the whole climb, you're going to cook your legs, and legs
take a lot longer to recover than lungs.

But assuming you've succumbed to the moment, and your legs are now
quivering masses of jello, the only thing you can do is slow down
and spin until they are ready to go again. Recovery can take several
minutes to a few days.

I do a lot of climbing and have to be very careful to avoid muscle
fatigue. 286,098 vertical ft. year-to-date, about 10,000' behind my
target. If my legs get cooked, I'll have to lay off the hills for a
few days and fall further behind my quota.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

Claire Petersky

"Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ga8380168l6j5ck052hkm59avqh4k5c6jt@4ax.com...

> How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

Since it's springtime, I have been feeling obliged to take the tough hill on
the way home, rather than do the staircase of Eastgate Way, which is hard
enough, but has little flat bits to catch your breath on, before the next
climb.

There's a long light at the top, and it's there that I usually recover. I
shed whatever jacket I was wearing, slurp water, and wait for the green.


--
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Claire Petersky
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David Reuteler

Claire Petersky <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> and wait for the green.

is that like waiting for tunnel vision to go away? my visual artifacts are
gray not green. green might describe the vomit, tho.
--
david reuteler
reuteler@visi.com

Rick Warner

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:54:47 -0700, Terry Morse <tmorse@spamcop.net>
wrote:

>
>I do a lot of climbing and have to be very careful to avoid muscle
>fatigue. 286,098 vertical ft. year-to-date, about 10,000' behind my
>target. If my legs get cooked, I'll have to lay off the hills for a
>few days and fall further behind my quota.

Wow Terry. I do about 400K/yr., but if you have done almost 300K so
far that puts you on track to do 900K or so for the year. Phew!
Bicycling had some stat that some twit claims to hold the record
for most climbing in a year at something like 415K or something.
Bunk if you ask me. Anyway, I guess the hip is doing OK this year.
How many times up Page Mill/week? How many miles so far
this year? I am nearing 200K on climbing, at just about 2500
miles. I try to keep things so I do 7000-8000 ft of climbing per
100 miles. Tomorrow I am going over to Felton to escort a
friend over to this side of the hill; will route to do 8000 ft or so
and 90-100 mile so close to average.

- rick 'climbing OLH and Page Mill once per week is the goal'

Mike Jacoubowsky

> I do a lot of climbing and have to be very careful to avoid muscle
> fatigue. 286,098 vertical ft. year-to-date, about 10,000' behind my
> target. If my legs get cooked, I'll have to lay off the hills for a
> few days and fall further behind my quota.

Dang Terry, people accuse me of doing nothing but climbing, but you're in a
whole different league! Of course, you probably put in *way* more miles
than I do. A word of advice- if you want to keep up the miles, don't go
into the retail bicycle business. It's tough to ride as much as you want
when you're working 80+ hours/week and trying to see what your family looks
like once in a while.

286,098 feet. Oh wait, that was nearly two hours ago... what are you up to
now?

Dang dang dang. I'll be very lucky if I hit 400,000 for the entire year.
You da man!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"Terry Morse" <tmorse@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:tmorse-3C2B8F.18544717042004@news.covad.net...
> Rick Onanian wrote:
>
> > After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my lungs, I
> > would have screamed like Howard Dean....
> >
> > A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow ascent kicked
> > my ass....
> >
> > How do you recover after beating a tough hill?
>
> Well, the best thing to do is not blow your wad on the hill in the
> first place. If you have decided to "pop the cork" on a hill, pick a
> gear that lets you maintain a reasonable cadence. If you're forced
> to stand the whole climb, you're going to cook your legs, and legs
> take a lot longer to recover than lungs.
>
> But assuming you've succumbed to the moment, and your legs are now
> quivering masses of jello, the only thing you can do is slow down
> and spin until they are ready to go again. Recovery can take several
> minutes to a few days.
>
> I do a lot of climbing and have to be very careful to avoid muscle
> fatigue. 286,098 vertical ft. year-to-date, about 10,000' behind my
> target. If my legs get cooked, I'll have to lay off the hills for a
> few days and fall further behind my quota.
> --
> terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

frkrygow

Rick Onanian wrote:

> I stood up. I even upshifted.
>
> Then I huffed...
>
> And I puffed...
>
> And I KICKED THAT HILL'S ASS!

Oh oh. You've done it. Now you're addicted.

>
> After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my lungs, I
> would have screamed like Howard Dean. I scarcely had the ability to
> stand. I stood there on somebody's lawn for 5 or 10 minutes while
> the burn in my legs competed with the burn in my lungs.
>
> A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow ascent kicked
> my ass. I stood halfway up a 40 foot (10 meter) long, barely up
> hill, unable to go. I tried to go, and almost fell in a deep, paved
> drainage ditch. I had to stand there for at least 5 minutes, for a
> hill that I could roll a bowling ball up.
>
> How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

I _don't_ stand there at the top. I roll on, spinning lightly. I think
it may help flush the lactic acid out of my muscles, or someting. But I
don't want to cool down.

And pacing is important. The only time I usually ride to absolute
exhaustion is at the end of a time trial. And I don't do those any more.

So I'd advise riding just a tad easier (say, one gear lower on that
particular hill) and keep moving.

But hey - Congratulations!



--
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Frank Krygowski [To reply, omit what's between "at" and "cc"]

Bernie

Rick Onanian wrote:

>I stood up. I even upshifted.
>
>Then I huffed...
>
>And I puffed...
>
>And I KICKED THAT HILL'S ASS!
>
>After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my lungs, I
>would have screamed like Howard Dean. I scarcely had the ability to
>stand. I stood there on somebody's lawn for 5 or 10 minutes while
>the burn in my legs competed with the burn in my lungs.
>
>A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow ascent kicked
>my ass. I stood halfway up a 40 foot (10 meter) long, barely up
>hill, unable to go. I tried to go, and almost fell in a deep, paved
>drainage ditch. I had to stand there for at least 5 minutes, for a
>hill that I could roll a bowling ball up.
>
>How do you recover after beating a tough hill?
>--
>Rick Onanian
>
Beat it, but don't beat so hard on it.
Bernie