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Live Tour Coverage - Tonight at 11.25pm

 
 
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Old 22-07.-2004, 07:55 AM   #16
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byron27 <byron27.19q9ub@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:<byron27.19q9ub@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com>...
> taken by itself its not so bad (so bad, relative, to say, getting your
> fingernails pulled out with electric pliers). The Alpe is a
> heartbreaker because it is usually the last climb of a stage, after
> climbing the galabier and the madeleine. That said, the first two
> switchbacks are nasty, nasty but its not too bad after that. The
> switchbacks are great to get a rest for a couple of secs and because it
> is back and forth up the mountain the visual impact is not so
> terrifying.I was quite surprised. I had more trouble getting up to
> chamrousse just outside of grenoble (used for the ITT in 2001) than the
> alpe.
>
> Ventoux is like that. No switchbacks and a clear view to the
> top....great .
>
> Anyone have any times for their ride up the alpe?
> I did 51 minutes in 2001, and it was the best fun ive had for ages. So
> was riding back down!!



Actually scrath what I just posted. I'd cancel the post but I use
crappy Google and once posted, is gone.

Still 51 min is very impressive, you probabably timed it from the
bottom ? Where as the tour stage started from a bit further back ?

Out of curisoiyt, how much time did you spend out of the saddle ?
 
Old 22-07.-2004, 08:08 AM   #17
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> Hmm,
> whats the actual capacity of 'G there days?

its about 80000 at the minute
but when its finished again in late 2005 will be 95000(i think)


bring back the standing area in the outer!!!

110k back in the 70's
before such trifling things as political correctness and safety issues were uinvented
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Old 22-07.-2004, 08:50 AM   #18
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A couple of things I noticed about last night:

1. The crowds. While I loved the atmosphere of yesterday's time trial, I think it was a tad dangerous for the riders who have so much at stake. Did you see Jan Ullrich get knocked on his hip by a spectator? There were some crazy spectators there. I basically agreed with Lance Armstrongs carefully selected words after the stage.

2. Motorbikes and exhaust fumes. Wouldn't those motorbikes give the riders the sh|ts. I know on my commute to work while riding the Yarra Blvd when a car goes past it's slightly irritating having to suck up the fumes. Imagine having motorbike(s) or cars in front of you the whole time? Parhaps they're finely tuned and have low emissions.
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> bring back the standing area in the outer!!!
>
> 110k back in the 70's
> before such trifling things as political correctness and safety issues
> were uinvented

I thought the record was 118k

but from the mcc web site

>As well as a world record for the most people to ever attend a baseball

match during the >1956 Games, the VFL/AFL Grand Final record attendance was
an amazing 121,000 >people for the 1970 decider between Carlton and
Collingwood.
>
>Its present capacity has been reduced as works take place to demolish and

completely >rebuild the Ponsford, members and northern stands, but once the
redevelopment is >complete it will boast a seating capacity in excess of
100,000.
but I have seen other figures of 95k or things like "almost 100k", so who is
up for helping me count them in early 2006???


 
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>As well as a world record for the most people to ever attend a baseball[/color]
match during the >1956 Games, the VFL/AFL Grand Final record attendance was
an amazing 121,000 >people for the 1970 decider between Carlton and
Collingwood.
>
>Its present capacity has been reduced as works take place to demolish and

completely >rebuild the Ponsford, members and northern stands, but once the
redevelopment is >complete it will boast a seating capacity in excess of
100,000.
but I have seen other figures of 95k or things like "almost 100k", so who is
up for helping me count them in early 2006???


more to the point, how much is 'dinkyDi' gonna cost???

I am a MCC member (got 2 actually :-) but only go there at half time/lunch to get drinks and food as the queues are non-existant and prices are lower than amongst the 'unwashed' Bays
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byron27 <byron27.19q9ub@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:<byron27.19q9ub@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com>...
> taken by itself its not so bad (so bad, relative, to say, getting your
> fingernails pulled out with electric pliers). The Alpe is a
> heartbreaker because it is usually the last climb of a stage, after
> climbing the galabier and the madeleine. That said, the first two
> switchbacks are nasty, nasty but its not too bad after that. The
> switchbacks are great to get a rest for a couple of secs and because it
> is back and forth up the mountain the visual impact is not so
> terrifying.I was quite surprised. I had more trouble getting up to
> chamrousse just outside of grenoble (used for the ITT in 2001) than the
> alpe.
>
> Ventoux is like that. No switchbacks and a clear view to the
> top....great .
>
> Anyone have any times for their ride up the alpe?
> I did 51 minutes in 2001, and it was the best fun ive had for ages. So
> was riding back down!!



Actually scrath what I just posted. I'd cancel the post but I use
crappy Google and once posted, is gone.

Still 51 min is very impressive, you probabably timed it from the
bottom ? Where as the tour stage started from a bit further back ?

Out of curisoiyt, how much time did you spend out of the saddle ?

i timed it from the start of the climb, not from the base town where the TT started. Thats another couple of minutes right there. I think the start was 1.5km from the base of the climb. I guess i had a lot of motivation on the day, as it was the day before the tour came up the climb and it was already packed, and i mean absolutely packed, with people (and heaps of drunken dutchies on the sixth switchback) who were cheering everyone climbing and there was always someone up ahead you could aim for, and then another to aim for, etc.

Time spent out of the saddle?, all of the first 3-4 switchbacks, and the majority of the rest of the climb, though it does flatten out a little in the middle switchbacks when you go through the small town on the climb and closer to the top where you can sit down and crank it out. The switchbacks were great to sit down for a few seconds and take the pressure off your legs.

It was also the first day i had the panniers off my bike. Maybe all the strength training with an extra 30kgs on the bike was beneficial!
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> rickster Wrote:

[snip]to aim for, etc.
>
> Time spent out of the saddle?, all of the first 3-4 switchbacks, and
> the majority of the rest of the climb, though it does flatten out a
> little in the middle switchbacks when you go through the small town on
> the climb and closer to the top where you can sit down and crank it
> out. The switchbacks were great to sit down for a few seconds and take
> the pressure off your legs.
>
> It was also the first day i had the panniers off my bike. Maybe all the
> strength training with an extra 30kgs on the bike was beneficial!



I'm pretty enviuos, it's gotta be one of those must do before I die things...
 
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>
> more to the point, how much is 'dinkyDi' gonna cost???

ok you lost me here, what is this "dinkyDi"?
>I am a MCC member (got 2 actually :-)

you mean a ladies ticket holder?
>but only go there at half
> time/lunch to get drinks and food as the queues are non-existant and
> prices are lower than amongst the 'unwashed' Bays
>
>
> --
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>



 
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I'm pretty enviuos, it's gotta be one of those must do before I die things...


why not combine the 2 and go out on a high note?
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more to the point, how much is 'dinkyDi' gonna cost???

I am a MCC member (got 2 actually :-) but only go there at half time/lunch to get drinks and food as the queues are non-existant and prices are lower than amongst the 'unwashed' Bays

flying, i have a membership and really i cant see the point of having it (especially seeing as i live in perth). I thought it guaranteed me a spot at the grand final but apparently it doesn't. Whats the point of having it then??
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"byron27" <byron27.19tvxm@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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> flyingdutch Wrote:
> > more to the point, how much is 'dinkyDi' gonna cost???
> >
> > I am a MCC member (got 2 actually :-) but only go there at half
> > time/lunch to get drinks and food as the queues are non-existant and
> > prices are lower than amongst the 'unwashed' Bays

> flying, i have a membership and really i cant see the point of having
> it (especially seeing as i live in perth). I thought it guaranteed me a
> spot at the grand final but apparently it doesn't. Whats the point of
> having it then??

that would make you an interstate member. if so, then you dont get a seat,
but you dont have to pay as much either.(of course I could be wrong)


 
 


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