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tonykara

sorry if i touch a nerve, your bike rode shitloads better than mine, like you said you can tell what an ant had for breakfast when you are riding a full alloy TCR.

when i was riding your bike up the small hill on kilby road kew i mentioned that it felt abit heavy/slugish, compared to mine it seemed like you had to work harder to get up to the top. this wasnt a stab at your bike, it was me just mentioning the differences between mine and yours. on the flat yours was awsome, mine only feels that smooth when connected to the wind trainer . and the gruppo was awsome, im definately sold there!

i agree that in 2 - 3 years what ever i buy now will be less desirable to the guy looking for something new, but im looking for something that will give me the wow factor, i dont really care what others think as long as i think its THE SHIT! a prime example are those who think a recumbent is THE SHIT i agree with 50%, i agree with the shit part.... ....but again each to their own.

here endeth my philosophical view on ones steed

mfhor

Hmm . . . felt like a bike, but on Beach Rd., there are no real hills. It's set up for people who "climb like homesick angels" to quote the estimable Norm Murray, an old bikie of no mean repute. I'm over 80 kgs so I can't really say, but it felt a bit floaty, but not at all flexy - except the wheels when pushed hard in a sprint. Not worth the money - bought by rich wannabes who'll never have the engine to power them, in my curmudgeonly opinion.

M" Steel used to be real until Alu/Carbon came along"H

flyingdutch

nah. no nerve touched. Ive heard the comment before about being flexy re steel but like I said, i dont really know exactly what and where that means.
(wish I could spend a week and ride EVERYTHING out there to get some perspective on all this. ink in magazines is pretty useless at the end of the day...)
there might be a difference with the tighter rear end from the tight triangle cos of sloping toptube-shorter seat-tube combo, and Im thinkin a tight triangle on a steel or Ti might be a cool compromise
(dreams of a Ghisallo...).

Im about 12 months ahead of you in the upgrade stakes. In my case the initial enthusiasm lasted about 2 weeks and was then brought thudding back to earth (admittedly by the hardest ride I have done - Alpine Classic) cos it brought out into broad daylight that the thing i really needed to improve was... yeah. Me!

Havin a pimpin bike (wow. i sound like one of them 'young' people. 'Yo' ) gets you a little more likely to climb outta bed on a Sunday and all, but I have just spent the last hour finishing my singlespeed project and its making its MkII debut in the morning and Im grinning like an idiot typing this. and it's cost me less than $200!

Im sittin here sounding like 'grasshopper' bein wise and all, but Im itchin to see what you and DaveB end up with
(strange how both purchases are so dependent on what the 'other half' says...)

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'ungrounded' Dutch...

aeek

I picked up my trusty steed this morning and it felt so light - then I realised, it normally has a bidon of water on it. The weight was the water!
I've heard of heavy water, is there a corresponding light water? How much would you be prepared to pay?

Fraser Johnston

"aeek" <aeek.1a389y@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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>
> mfhor Wrote:
> > tyres, latex tubes, Hyperon wheels that scrapes 6120 grams. Nya Nya Nya
> > Nya Nya. I rode it, took a crap, rode it again and reduced the
> > bike/rider combined weight by 5.5%. Then I ate a muesli bar, increasing
> > the recalculated weight by 1.7%. After that, I filled my bidons, put
> > each of them into the $149 carbon fibre bidon cages, altering the
> > bike's weight by a massive 20%! (all calculations incredibly
> > approximate).
>
> I picked up my trusty steed this morning and it felt so light - then I
> realised, it normally has a bidon of water on it. The weight was the
> water!
> I've heard of heavy water, is there a corresponding light water? How
> much would you be prepared to pay?
>
>
> --
> aeek

Use carbonated water. It weighs less. Every gram counts.

Fraser

Graeme

"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in news:2movhnFp6v7gU1@uni-
berlin.de:

> Use carbonated water. It weighs less. Every gram counts.
>

Nah, fill your water bottle from the white frothy bit at the bottom of
rapids/waterfalls, that's much lighter. It also has the added benefit of
giving you a little bit more oxygen with every sip. You may find that you
need to continuously shake the bottle for it to retain these properties
though.

Graeme

Marty Wallace

"aeek" <aeek.1a389y@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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>
> mfhor Wrote:
> > tyres, latex tubes, Hyperon wheels that scrapes 6120 grams. Nya Nya Nya
> > Nya Nya. I rode it, took a crap, rode it again and reduced the
> > bike/rider combined weight by 5.5%. Then I ate a muesli bar, increasing
> > the recalculated weight by 1.7%. After that, I filled my bidons, put
> > each of them into the $149 carbon fibre bidon cages, altering the
> > bike's weight by a massive 20%! (all calculations incredibly
> > approximate).
>
> I picked up my trusty steed this morning and it felt so light - then I
> realised, it normally has a bidon of water on it. The weight was the
> water!
> I've heard of heavy water, is there a corresponding light water? How
> much would you be prepared to pay?
>
>
> --
> aeek

Remember in the Dune movie they wear special suits that collect your sweat
and recycle it into drinking water? You could wear one of those. (In bright
cycling type colours of course.) Then you can do away with your drink bottle
altogether.

Marty