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25-07.-2004, 12:09 PM
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Re: Cry Baby Simeoni
No it doesn't. What is the explanation for JU's poor performances, including his inability to even reach the podium this year?
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25-07.-2004, 12:09 PM
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Re: Cry Baby Simeoni
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its very easy running after simeoni in the 18th stage when everything is done, why didnt armstrong run after him another days simeoni has been escaped?? yes i heard that cipollini didnt want simeoni in the same team, especially after the tour of georgia, dont know what would happen between them 2, but i can assure you that very very very few us postal riders stand armstrong, hincapie and dont know who else, at least the spaniards dont |
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25-07.-2004, 12:11 PM
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One does not squat a fly when there is more significant prey out there. One only turns to squatting a fly when one has the time and other prey have been "handled". (This analogy does not demean Simeoni. It's an analogy, not a statement Simeoni is fly-like). I should note that LA strongly signaled a team or any other group of riders can be disadvantaged by having Simeoni with it. LA will pay attention to that group. That means Simoeni is becoming less marketable and less helpful as a rider to any group of which he is a part.  |
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25-07.-2004, 12:13 PM
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Re: Cry Baby Simeoni
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so you are meaning that armstrong only wanted to humillate simeoni?? very nice of him |
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25-07.-2004, 12:14 PM
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Re: Cry Baby Simeoni
No, LA wanted to prevent Simeoni from joining the breakaway and having a chance to win the stage (not that, of course, Simeoni could have won even if he alone had joined the breakaway
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25-07.-2004, 12:15 PM
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Re: Cry Baby Simeoni
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By golly JU needs get with the program, everyone else is doping. God that JU must be slow. As a matter of fact (ha ha) he's been a bit slow for....somebody help me out on this one..........Six years now! |
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25-07.-2004, 12:19 PM
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Simeoni reaped what he sowed ? You make a lot of generalised statements. Sorry, let's just take a step back here. Simeoni said that Ferrari gave him drugs to use at the Italian Commission. LA called Simeoni a liar because he (Simeoni) had told the commission that Ferrari gave him drugs and that this somehow implicated LA's relationship with Ferrari. Simeoni is now suing LA for calling him a liar. Yesterday, Simeoni goes up the road and LA marks him. LA states on Eurosport that no one in the peloton likes Simeoni because Simeoni implicated the entire peloton. Reaped what he sowed. What exactly did he sow ? And while you're an acknowledged supporter of LA - who says he's the boss of the peloton ? |
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25-07.-2004, 12:21 PM
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"LA states on Eurosport that no one in the peloton likes Simeoni because Simeoni implicated the entire peloton" Are you so sure LA said that "no one" likes Simeoni? LA did mention the peloton's interests, but did he say "no one" liked Simeoni? Simeoni, a domestique who is not a particularly accomplished rider in the peloton, sowed the fruits of litigating against the boss of the peloton and multiple TdF winner LA. That itself took stupidity. So he sowed = he sued LA. It's obvious LA is the boss of the peloton. Simeoni has to be applauded for not realizing he is reaping the consequences of his own past actions. He continues to say bad things about LA, thereby sowing the seeds of future adverse consequences to himself.  |
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25-07.-2004, 12:24 PM
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2nd in the TDF, 5 times, is a poor performance is it ? Either you are being disingenuous or you're completely delusional. I have outlined the reasons in my last post as to why he came second so many times. Eh, and while we're here - maybe you can give us some idea of your palmares ? |
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25-07.-2004, 12:26 PM
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Yes LA said "no one". We shall see theoutcome of court proceedings between LA and Simeoni. Just as we'll see if LA will go in to open court in France with David Walsh. |
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25-07.-2004, 12:27 PM
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No you haven't. There's still no explanation of why JU has performed the way he has. And trying to get away from an explanation by focusing on what is "poor" or not is not going to help. Let's remove qualitative characerizations of the nature of the JU's performance. Why has JU performed the way he has? Explain why JU is a better ITTer than Basso. Explain why JU performed the way he did. Explain why Kloden suddenly performed better this year -- is he taking substances? Explain why Sastre performed the way he did this year. Explain why RIDER X [insert any rider] performed the way he did in [insert any tour] in year [insert any year]. Also, why have Heras and Mayo performed the way they have in this TdF. Under your argument, they must have been doping before and now they are not doping because they are afraid of tests and therefore they do not perform. This illustrates how unjustified the request for explanations really is. UNDER THE STRANGE REQUEST FOR EXPLANATIONS IN THIS THREAD, NO RIDER COULD HAVE A CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES OR PERFORMANCE WITHOUT NEEDING AN EXPLANATION. That's very strange. Last edited by musette : 25-07.-2004 at 12:30 PM. |
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25-07.-2004, 12:30 PM
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You trip yourself up constantly. For one who is a samll fly (Simeoni) - LA has paid him a lot of attention in this TDF and through legal proceedings. Hasn't he Musette. While I have your attention - are you going to give us this benefit of your cycling experience ? |
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25-07.-2004, 12:30 PM
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Re: Cry Baby Simeoni
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we will never see lance in a court, because he is american, and if you are american you have the right or the priviledge or both of judging and not being judged |
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25-07.-2004, 12:34 PM
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azevedo, landis, hincapie climbing!!!, rubiera, heras, since he is not in us postal what has sastre performed? he has been 8th, 9th in 2003, 10th in 2002, whats the performance??? Basso was 7th and best youth rider, its not ilogical that he was 3rd this year lets not compared these examples with armstrongs....... |
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25-07.-2004, 12:34 PM
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I've touched a nerve. I explained to you why JU has finished second to Lance Armstrong to 2003. Oh, some bloke who could only manage to finish a TDF once between 1992-1996 - returned to the peloton in 1998 and then managed to outsprint sprinters, outclimb climbers and outroul rouleurs - all after having contracted cancer, for six years between 199-2004. In fact the one TDF he did manage to finish in 1992-1996, he was 1hr 26secs behind the TDF winner. But he has written two books stating that he's never used drugs and that his performances are down to hard work, healthy eating and err, great bio-mechanics, which were totally invisible between 1992-1996 and which did not enable to complete 3 tours de France out of four and not compete for a podium place....nor a classment jersey......nor be visible as a potential overall Tour contender in fact....... But it's alright once his books say that he is kosher, he has to be kosher.. so it's all right....but don't ask any questions..don't mention Ferrari..don't mention Emma O'Reilly, Swart, LeMond, David Walsh...don't mention etc etc. This does explain.........partially explains.......well, doesn't really explain...... why JU hasn't won, but has come second since 1999, in the TDF. Now you want me to explain why Sastre, Kloden, Rider X have performed as well ? Come on, Musette. |
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