How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?

CAMPYBOB

...crime in US is very different from that in a good part of the "rest of the world"

Uh huh...you mean like...South Africa? Columbia? Mexico? Philippines? Cambodia? Jamaica? Haiti? Argentina? Pakistan? Zimbabwe? Chechnaya? Palestine? Sudan? Eritrea?

Violent crime is violent crime and dead is dead regardless of the language spoken and the motive behind the action.

I wouldn't tread most of this godforsaken planet without a Kalashnikov on my shoulder.

6fhscjess

Where did you get your information from the Joyce Foundation or The Brady campain or the VPC? Thats like asking a car mechanic for advice on brain surgery.
The estimates run anywhere from several hundred thousand to 2.5 million defensive gun uses the huge majority happen without a shot being fired.
Only if the criminal is dumb enough to attack someone whom is armed or is looking to commit suicide is a shooting likely to occur.
You get your information from sources that are bought and paid for by multi-million and multi-billion dollar anti-gun elitists that have guns and security with guns available to them but they don't want the peasants to have them.
Gun control does not take guns out of the hands of criminals it only disarms the innocent.

6fhscjess

So in your opinion a person is supposed to allow someone to beat them, rape them, stab them etc. and hope thats all that happens to them?
If you choose to be a victim go right ahead but don't tell others that they have to be a victim.

stevebaby

Think of the fun you and joe could have fondling each other's "weapons"!

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stevebaby

I've been to the Philippines,Papua-New Guinea,Vietnam,Laos,Aceh (Indonesia) and Kampuchea and a few other places and I never needed a weapon to travel around. I was never even threatened.
I have been threatened,in Australia, half a dozen times and each time it was by a leagal gun owner.
I was never threatened to the point that I had to use my gun when I was a police officer.
You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Scaredy cat.
Sissy.

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stevebaby

Partaking of the practice of piscine pugilistics is a pastime of mine,particularly powered by Pilsener.

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stevebaby

How do you use a gun "defensively" if you don't fire it?
If you don't fire it...you haven't used it at all.
The "multi-millionaire gun elitists" are the gun companies who have convinced the suckers and inadequate fearful little zeroes that they need a weapon.
Losers.

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mitosis

I'm not sure you get the idea. If pull a gun on someone who is carrying a gun they have to shoot you to stop you using it - I don't know why but they won't realise straight away that you are only carrying it for protection and really weren't threatening to shoot them. Look at crime reports and this is a common scenario.

And yes, abhorrent as it may seem, I would give all my worldly goods away, or risk being injured if it is a choice between dying and living.

You only have to look at the class of weapon talked about by posters on this thread to see that if everyone is carrying a gun, then the criminals will carry a bigger one or start shooting earlier.

Seems like paranoia is ruining your ability to think logically.

If you pull a gun on someone you are asking to get shot.

6fhscjess

Actually you have no idea of reality. Only a fool believes that being defenseless eguals being safe. What if they choose to do more than injure you? What if they plan to kill you anyway even if you have given up all your worldly goods? No one should subjugate themselves to criminals.
When you pull a gun you catch them by surprise and in many instances unless they meant to kill you anyway they will turn and run or drop the gun etc. Also not every deadly encounter happens with a gun. There are many that occur with knives, clubs etc.
It looks like your paranoia of inanimate objects is clouding your ability to think rationally.
No one has the right to attack anyone and if they do they should suffer serious consequences for their actions.

As I said before only a fool believes being defenseless equals being safe.

6fhscjess

The only suckers are people like you SB. If you pull a gun and the person surrenders you have still used it in a defensive manner without firing but it figures I would have to explain things to someone who blames inanimate objects instead of the people that wield them.
In the 60's and before guns used to be readily available in Department stores, sporting good stores, some hardware stores, mail order etc. and there were not a rash of school shootings and other mass shootings. In fact some schools had shooting teams.
It is not the availability of firearms it is the over abundance of criminals that are enabled by appeasers like you with the victim mentality that would willingly subjugate themselves to criminals, tyrants etc.

As I said in another post only a fool believes being defenseless equals being safe.

cyclemanx

If you think you need to pack a gun when you go cycling, you should also consider a taser gun, a pepper spray, and maybe a bullet-proof vest, or even a suit of armour.
Be sure not to travel anywhere there are mosquitoes. They attack and kill more humans than any other animal. Cats and dogs can be bad too.
Most people die in bed, so be sure not to lie down.
For God's sake don't cross the steets. That is often fatal.
Don't ever ride in cars, buses, or airplanes. They can be lethal.
Hope this helps.

mitosis

Think it through. If they plan to kill you anyway, having a gun won't help because you'll be dead before you get your gun out.

And getting back to the topic of this thread - that is why it is such a ridiculous idea to carry a gun while cycling. By the time you've recovered from your near miss the car/truck/bus will be gone and you will have to shoot some other motorist to take out your frustration - but then I forgot, you don't actually shoot the weapon it is in your pocket for protection.

I think you'll find that more cyclists are protected by helmets than by guns, but I can't find any statistics to back that up. LOL

stevebaby

'What if...', 'What if...'.....
What a fearful little chappie you are.
What if you get hit by a car when you ride your bike?...better stay home and hide under the bed.
BTW...I know you aren't a cyclist at all, and so does anyone else who cares to throw away a few minutes of their life that they will never get back, reading your posts.

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stevebaby

Bob, could you please answer a simple question? A 'yes' or 'no' answer is sufficient.
Q. Do you regularly lube your 'gun'?

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