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03-02.-2005, 10:14 AM
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Re: Best track sprinter
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As a kid I had a great photo of him hitting the deck on a concrete outdoor track (Colorado?) in a 3-up gallop.....must've been doing 70+kmh. |
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04-02.-2005, 04:19 PM
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Is Patey out of jail yet? Shocked the sh*t out of me when I read the newspaper one day. |
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04-02.-2005, 04:23 PM
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Dunno.....I reckon he'd be in the crowd in Bendgo this weekend if he was. |
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22-02.-2005, 08:46 PM
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I like the Idea but it has one flaw, Nakano never rode an Olympic to my knowledge. He is the only person who needs to be on the list really, rest are also rans.... my 123 is Nakano, Hesslich then Neiwand I justify Neiwand simply by saying he was so good for so long! I think at his very best he may have been a little behind my forth pick Fiedler, but he gets the nod on longevity in a sport that isnt kind on age. (which illustraites my choice of Nakano even more) |
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23-02.-2005, 06:29 AM
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The only problem with Nakano is he never raced the amateur racers who at the time were going around half a second quicker over 200m, if it was an open competition as it is now i think he would have struggled to get top 5. And why oh why do people keep voting fot Neiwand??!! Tactically he was great but nearly all on that list had more success and as long if not longer careers! Is it that the Australians on this list are biased? :-) Lee |
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23-02.-2005, 08:14 AM
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how could you say such a thing??? 1. Gary Neiwand 2. Stephen Pate 3. Darryn Hill 4. Sean Eadie 5. Carey Hall 6. Shane Kelly 7. David Dew 8. Kenrick Tucker  |
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23-02.-2005, 08:21 AM
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Just remind me how many of that list have been caught taking performance enhancing smarties??? |
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23-02.-2005, 08:23 AM
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lol.... Maybe one or two....I'd have to look into it, |
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23-02.-2005, 08:38 AM
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On that list of Australian track sprinters the only doubtful, in my mind, is Carey Hall - Kathy Watt's coach/manager/partner/fiance/husband. None of the others have failed tests for PED's or have been in breach for infractions of other rules relating to drugs in sport. But I welcome any challenge.
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23-02.-2005, 08:41 AM
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Weren't Darryn Hill and his dad flogging tabs to Perth's rave scene? Classy...
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23-02.-2005, 08:25 PM
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Are you serious? What about Eadie importing them does that count? |
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23-02.-2005, 08:28 PM
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Yes the Amatures where a little faster, but as Kurt Harnet found out oh so often, fastest isnt always best. I dought the Amatures would have touched Nakano on the track. Funny thing is though that according to legend there where a dozen or so Japanese faster than him about who didnt bother with the worlds.... |
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24-02.-2005, 03:32 AM
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No, cos he was found not to be importing banned substances. If he had been found to have imported banned substances he would have been sanctioned. The "drug" in question was a hgh precursor which was provided gratis by the US supplier of legal over the counter vitamin supplements as a promotion to Eadie. Eadie produced his financial records to prove he never ordered and never paid for the hgh precursor. His position was supported by the US supplier. It is also doubtful whether hgh precursors actually stimulate the production of natural hgh
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24-02.-2005, 07:56 AM
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Re: Best track sprinter
Fixey The East Germans and Russians Competing at the same time as Nakano were just as skillfull tactically and atleast 0.5 of a second quicker over 200m
For example 0.5 away from the fastest qualifier at last years olympics was 15th place! As for the fact there were 10 faster guys back home, there may have been 10 better kierin racers but would those men used to racing on big out door tracks in long sprints been world beaters on steep wooden tracks in shorter sprints?? I guess we will never find out. And to answer your challenge VeloFlash Stephen Pate and Carey Hall were both disqualified from the same worlds for failing drugs tests about 1990/1991 i think. Also Darryn Hill has been reported to have failed an out of season test. Lee |
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24-02.-2005, 11:54 PM
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Re: Best track sprinter
I remember seeing Pate racing at Leicester in the mid 80's, probably 86 - leading up to the commonwealth games, at that time he was no match for Niewand, he was also very lightly built for a sprinter, not carrying any bulk. Quite a contrast from the build he sported in the early 90's when he almost made Hubner look like a streak of pi$$.
He definately did get disqualified form the worlds around that time. As far as Nakano is concerned I agree that he would not have been quite as competetive against the likes of Hesslich, Kopylov, Hubner. They were quicker and every bit as tactically astute. |
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