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Relationship between HR, power, anaeric threshold and rpm

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Old 22-12.-2004, 07:33 AM   #16
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Steve's comments are right on, but for the informational benefit of the forum (and to hear myself "talk"), I have to add a couple of things concerning dkxkvtr's statements:
1) Recovery intervals have no role in the physiologic adaptations of MLSS (maximal lactate steady state - to use a lactate referenced definition) training, they simply provide a mental break during a form of training that is lengthy and both physically and mentally challenging. Adaptation occurs from extended periods of time spent at a POWER OUTPUT that is just just below, at, or slightly above your 30-60min TT power. Assuming power output is maintained/is similar, there is no difference between 3 x 20min vs 1 x 60min of this kind of training (for example).
Note: where to train in relation to your actual threshold power depends on the time of year, the races you are training for, your cycling experience and whether or not you are an elite athlete. However, for most of us, the training benefits are easily obtained from training just below our threshold...slogging through "the burn" isn't necessary.
2) In addition to Steve's comments, (and to harp on HR for sure!) HR can be influenced by fatigue (from the current workout or past workouts), hydration (and subsequent cardiac drift), body temperature, altitude, sleep, anxiety, caffeine, hormone release, illness...and...cadence (not to mention the exercise itself). Why? HR is nothing more than an indirect measure of the WHOLE BODY response to stress (not just exercise), which will include some or all of the variables listed above. This is, of course, the ultimate foundation for power based training....direct measurement of work done, no influence of other factors, ever.
Just to be snotty...physiologic adaptations to training at your 30-60min TT power include: increase plasma volume, mitochondrial enzymes, muscle capillarization, stroke volume, maximal cardiac output and VO2max ... also stimulates conversion of type IIb fibers to type IIa.
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Lord knows we all love to listen to ourselves talk, if we didn't there wouldn't be any internet Anyway, I would point out that under some conditions power will be influenced by other factors, but those factors will also certainly affect HR. A prime example would be high intensity training or racing in the heat, where blood flow to the exercising muscles will be compromised. Under these circumstances, power output could be reduced, and yet, you would still be working at your LT, under those conditions, for example. Other examples would be fatigue, overtraining, illness etc. The point being, that if you go out to do an LT interval and the power is down, there is likely an underlying reason that could be easily identified (e.g. heat, fatigue), whereas, if you trained by LT HR, power might be down, might be up, might be the same, you just don't know. Knowing is the valuable thing. Then, knowing what to do with what you know if the really valuable thing.

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Old 22-12.-2004, 09:42 AM   #17
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Lord knows we all love to listen to ourselves talk, if we didn't there wouldn't be any internet Anyway, I would point out that under some conditions power will be influenced by other factors, but those factors will also certainly affect HR. A prime example would be high intensity training or racing in the heat, where blood flow to the exercising muscles will be compromised. Under these circumstances, power output could be reduced, and yet, you would still be working at your LT, under those conditions, for example. Other examples would be fatigue, overtraining, illness etc. The point being, that if you go out to do an LT interval and the power is down, there is likely an underlying reason that could be easily identified (e.g. heat, fatigue), whereas, if you trained by LT HR, power might be down, might be up, might be the same, you just don't know. Knowing is the valuable thing. Then, knowing what to do with what you know if the really valuable thing.

Steve
Sorry about not being a little more clear about my statement...your absolutely right of course, performance is influenced by many factors. The point that I failed to make is that as a MEASURE of performance, a power meter will always directly measure the work that is being done, as opposed to HR, which even under the most controlled or "optimal" circumstances is only an indirect measure and higly influenced by many factors other than your performance.
Hope that makes more sense.
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