Livestrong Band

jcjordan

This has got to be one of the dumbest comments I have ever seen on this form.




What diffrence does it make if you buy a band around your wrist or a silly red nose (FYI this is for Sudden Infant Death Sydrom). By doing so you show your support for a cause.



Ok I stand corrected, this one was even dumber. The fact the Trek and the team spend so much on technical improvments is a complement to the sport, consider how much goes into F1 racing. I suggest you also look at how much Lance has put in of his own money to set up and operate the LAF.

It is unfortunate that it seems you have fallen for the trendy "I hate Americans" Fad that is going around Australia and Europe at the moment. No I am not a American, I was actually born in Canada but have lived in Oz since '83. Might I suggest that you wake up and smell the coffee and look into what you are saying before you fool of yourself again.

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rayner

True I could have phrased things better but it is still my opinion that things could and should be done differently. I'm not saying lets not support cancer research but asking why his name has to be on it and why the companies that support him arent helping more. We arent talking little corner shop companies with only 20 bucks to donate, we're talking billions of dollars and surely if they truly wanted to support the cause they would erradicate cancer. I dont think thats going to happen any time soon.

I dont hate Americans at all, I ve only refercenced armstrong because I believe that although what he is doing is something it is not as much as what he could be doing.

I never raised any issues about what was good for the sport, simply using an example that illustrates how much money is turned over. Perez's bike was an association to how much Armstrongs bikes would cost to develop. Anyway id say Trek and the team make technical improvements to benifit Lance and maybe two others, not the team or sport as a whole. In reference to your F1 statement, michael schumacher donated over 13 million to the tsunami appeal the other day, nobody would probably know that as he did it quietly and not for self gain.

How do you know that I'm not originally American? I was criticising Armstrong and his sponsor companies, not Americans as a whole.

mariana4027

they cost more than 2 dollars in Costa Rica, and i havent been able to fin one that im completely sure is not fake...

Wolfzazi

Well then you should donate your whole salary to the cause using that terminology. But you don't, and if your anywhere near a good person you'd donate a certain percentage of your salary to a chairity. Lance Amrstrong donates his time and money into the LAF, what do you volunteer for, or are you to busy training for the tour de france? Honestly what person in their right mind after almost dying going through cancer, would say "hey not only can i make millions in racing, i can probably make in cancer", because a lot of you are portraying this.


Another thing is these people wearing these bands for fashion, well just shows how much they care for the cause. So if it weren't for the bracelets, that would mean more money for the fashion police and less for cancer. And i'm sure people who already donate to chairities still would continue their contributions after just buying one of these $1 bracelets, which ultimately would make them reconsider their yearly chairity to donate to, for example: rather than making their yearly wilflide donation they might start making donations to cancer. The people that don't donate money would only be buying this for the fashion reason or have just finally realized every dollar counts in curing cancer.
As for commercialism, it would be wrong to see a nike logo on the band which thankfully isn't. But for people to think of Lance through the bracelet is A okay, he's achievement after cancer can reach people's hearts and make them actually realize how big an issue cancer really is. So now this is like another debate over is lance taking steroids or is it his natural ability in being born with anbornal larger lungs? In which here: is Lance doing this for his relation to cancer, or is he doing it for profit and more fame?
I think all the pros overcome the cons here, and Lance is just one nice dude. He donated money to it's cause and you don't hear it on the news, but every now and then you hear on TV a celebrity has donated $?????? to save cancer. It's obvious if he was doing it for fame he's donations would be on tommorow's paper. But he's doing it in a way it's not.

rayner

"Well then you should donate your whole salary to the cause using that terminology. But you don't, and if your anywhere near a good person you'd donate a certain percentage of your salary to a chairity." I am a student and full time bike rider so I havent got time for a job. As treasurer of my student council I organised intiatives that have helped raise over 2500 thousand dollars for charity so dont give me that.

My problem with the whole armstrong thing basically lies in how the bands have been designed. By putting the name Livestrong on them there is an automatic realationship drawn between the band and armstrong-fair enough he started it. However in doing so a lot of people (you guys that have criticised what I have said are looking at your experiences with how people react to the bands; not mine) buy because of Armstrong and because theyve seen famous people wearing them. This means that the cancer cause has A) gained $1 a pop-great I'll agree with that, B) hasn't had its profile lifted-thats what I don't like, C) Armstrong gets his profile lifted as everyone thinks that theyre "Armstrong Bands"-thats what really irks me.

In my opinion (yes my opinion, don't mind if you disagree, you dont have to agree with it) its just a publicity vehicle. For example Andy Roddick has got a blue wristband out, I dont think anyone would know what its for but I'm sure people will buy it because of Andy Roddick. His cause wont get any publicity but"Adny Roddick has got a blue wristband out" Can you see what I mean. I struggle to convey what I'm tryingto say without actually talking to someone so please dont shoot me down in flames. (again!)

dice2833

Talking about others copying off the livestrong bands...yesterday i saw a guy wearing a blue one, it was a bracelet for Libraries...FREAKING LIBRARIES!!!!!!!! I mean come one! I'm glad that the cancer community is gaining awareness, and money....they've found a great way to do it. But i hate how all of these other companies are copying off what's already been done! The Breast Cancer Society has done it too...i mean, they need the funding/support also, but they need to be creative and come up with their own ideas!

I guess what i hate most in this situation is how so many groups are profitting off someone elses idea! (again, i'm not downing the funding/support of these groups, but they need to get their funding/support in other ways!)

rayner

Thats what Ive been trying to basically say but apparently it hasnt quite come out right each time. Only difference is I see Armstrong profitting off cancer as opposed to libraries profiting of the livestrong idea.

I think Id better let this one rest as Ive been repeating myself for a long time (even though I could have worded it better...). As a side note, in the paper the other day it said that Lance Armstrong Bands (can you see my point a little here...Remember Im not in America where they might not get called that) were being confused for do not resuscitate bands in some American hospitals. Got no idea how accurate that is but its a good thing theyve caught on to it. And to finish; Id appreciate that anyone who has a go at me for my opinion at least have something constructive to say (yeh thats you jcjordan, please define dumb) and thanks for those who have because no two opinions should be the same.

jcjordan

The reason that i said that only selling the bands at the one place is that you limit your exposure. By allowing the bands to be sold at the local shops, etc gives you the ability to pull the heart strings of those people who are less likey to go out of there way to donate. In effect it is advertising your cause.

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rayner

Good point, just wish youd said that before!

michelle turner

I do, so does my brother and sister in law. We all met in Paris to watch the last stage of the 04 tour - awesome. We also lost our Aunt that year to cancer. I wear it for her, I bought it help raise $ for cancer research and its a constant reminder that when Im struggling through a training session its never going to be as tough as what cancer sufferers go through... so i look at it and just suck it up and get through the session - no complaints
Michelle

jmp

Yes , I wear my band , for all my family members who have passed from the big C. It's not all about Lance , but what he can do for others , and what we can do to help.

michelle turner

here here. fully agree

ChangMan

Well said, buddy.

Patrick88

I wear it. When I am biking and I am struggling my head falls, i see it and it gives me motivaion to lift my head and keep struggling away