Wind

Al C-F

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:33:17 +0000, Richard Bates
<usenet01@artybee.net> wrote:

>I'm sure he was merely "warning you of his presence".
>
>A polite "thank you" wave is the standard reply.

I find that thumbing the nose demonstrates the appropriate level of
contempt.

Jon Senior

gazzafield wrote:
> 100mph wind and your out on a pushie???!!! It was bad enough in a car.
> Tosser.

I think you forgot a smiley there!

Jon

dkahn400

Jon Senior wrote:
> gazzafield wrote:
> > 100mph wind and your out on a pushie???!!! It was bad enough in
> > a car.
> > Tosser.
>
> I think you forgot a smiley there!
I don't think he intended one.

--
Dave...

gazzafield

"dkahn400" <dkahn400@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1105698752.927007.70900@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Jon Senior wrote:
> > gazzafield wrote:
> > > 100mph wind and your out on a pushie???!!! It was bad enough in
> > > a car.
> > > Tosser.
> >
> > I think you forgot a smiley there!
> I don't think he intended one.
>
> --
> Dave...
>


*Ding!*

Jon Senior

gazzafield wrote:
> *Ding!*

Dong merrily on high?

Depending on many things, a 100mph wind does not preclude cycling.

Pushies include trikes and a recumbent trike would (I imagine) be more
shielded from crosswinds and less susceptible to unintentional movement.

Since the wind keeps many cars off the roads, there is a lot less grief
to be had from other cars, and those that are left seem more inclined to
leave room.

Calling someone a "tosser" for choosing (Or having little choice) to
ride a bike in strong winds, without any knowledge of their skill or the
circumstances marks you as an example of name calling between various
kitchen heating receptacles. Try writing more than two sentences and an
insult in a post. The resulting time delay may make you reconsider your
words.

Jon

gazzafield

"Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote in message

> Calling someone a "tosser" for choosing (Or having little choice) to
> ride a bike in strong winds, without any knowledge of their skill or the
> circumstances marks you as an example of name calling between various
> kitchen heating receptacles. Try writing more than two sentences and an
> insult in a post. The resulting time delay may make you reconsider your
> words.


Let me think. No, he was a tosser. I ride motorcycles which have
considerably more weight and resistance to be blown about and in those kind
of cicumstances it's quite simply frightening a lot of the time. There are
such things as buses and trains you know.

Danny Colyer

gazzafield wrote:
> Let me think. No, he was a tosser. I ride motorcycles which have
> considerably more weight and resistance to be blown about

You'd think so, wouldn't you? In fact motorbikes tend to have a greater
side area than pedal cycles (because of that bloody great engine sitting
in the frame), making them more prone to being blown around. The extra
weight also makes it harder to wrestle with the machine when you need to
get it back under control.

> and in those kind
> of cicumstances it's quite simply frightening a lot of the time.

Certainly is. Much more frightening than on a pedal cycle, IME. I
would much, much rather be on a proper bike (i.e. a human powered one)
in a strong wind. Or even better a recumbent trike, as Jon suggested.


--
Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
<URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

Richard Bates

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:40:17 -0000, "gazzafield"
<game_abandoned@nospam.thank.you> wrote:

>"Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote in message
>
>> Calling someone a "tosser" for choosing (Or having little choice) to
>> ride a bike in strong winds, without any knowledge of their skill or the
>> circumstances marks you as an example of name calling between various
>> kitchen heating receptacles. Try writing more than two sentences and an
>> insult in a post. The resulting time delay may make you reconsider your
>> words.
>
>
>Let me think. No, he was a tosser. I ride motorcycles which have
>considerably more weight and resistance to be blown about and in those kind
>of cicumstances it's quite simply frightening a lot of the time. There are
>such things as buses and trains you know.
>
Not at the times I sometimes have to travel, there aren't. What is the
problem with somebody other than yourself choosing to travel in wind?

--
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you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'.
... erm, how do they figure that one out?

Mark McNeill

Response to Danny Colyer:
> I
> would much, much rather be on a proper bike (i.e. a human powered one)
> in a strong wind. Or even better a recumbent trike, as Jon suggested.
>

My trike approached a PB for the commute home, on the windiest of the
windy days. I *was* on it at the time, though I'm not sure how much
difference I made...

--
Mark, UK.
Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

David Martin

On 15/1/05 10:40 am, in article SYOdnQEwu6aSbnXcRVnyjg@pipex.net,
"gazzafield" <game_abandoned@nospam.thank.you> wrote:

> "Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote in message
>
>> Calling someone a "tosser" for choosing (Or having little choice) to
>> ride a bike in strong winds, without any knowledge of their skill or the
>> circumstances marks you as an example of name calling between various
>> kitchen heating receptacles. Try writing more than two sentences and an
>> insult in a post. The resulting time delay may make you reconsider your
>> words.
>
>
> Let me think. No, he was a tosser. I ride motorcycles which have
> considerably more weight and resistance to be blown about and in those kind
> of cicumstances it's quite simply frightening a lot of the time.

You are travelling a *lot* faster on a motorbike and don't have the capacity
to react to strong winds that a cyclist does. As for busses, I'd rather be
on the bike than on a double decker bus in strong winds.

Being on a bike is no worse than being on foot.

...d

> There are
> such things as buses and trains you know.
>
>

Jon Senior

gazzafield wrote:
> Let me think. No, he was a tosser. I ride motorcycles which have
> considerably more weight and resistance to be blown about and in those kind
> of cicumstances it's quite simply frightening a lot of the time. There are
> such things as buses and trains you know.

So. Because you have ridden a flat sided, heavy (Making control a little
harder) vehicle in high winds and found it difficult, that means that
someone else, riding an open framed, light vehicle in similar
circumstances is a tosser. It's always good to clarify these things,
don't you think.

Trains slow down when the wind picks up for safety reasons and buses are
a perfect example of a bad aerodynamic design.

Get out more. Try actually *cycling* in the wind, rather than
superimposing your beliefs which came from a quite different form of
transport.

It doesn't take a great deal of brain to modify your riding style to
accommodate the weather, and most drivers seem to be more aware of
cyclists during high winds. It's not easy work. It is different from
"normal" riding. But it's far from impossible, and a good distance from
completely unsafe. Both of which would need to be true if there was to
be any justification in your name calling.

Jon

Simon Brooke

in message <t8rau0d4kqn6mujo506hkioqn6msdealr8@4ax.com>, Richard Bates
('usenet01@artybee.net') wrote:

> On 12 Jan 2005 03:23:00 -0800, "BigRab" <robert@earthsci.gla.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>except for the driving instructor who blasted his horn at me for being
>>well out in the lane (on a DC).
>
> I'm sure he was merely "warning you of his presence".
>
> A polite "thank you" wave is the standard reply.

For those not versed in cycling lore, it should be explained that the
'thank you' wave is the one where only the pointer and middle fingers
are extended.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

:: Wisdom is better than weapons of war ::
:: Ecclesiastes 9:18 ::

Richard Bates

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:33:17 +0000, Richard Bates
<usenet01@artybee.net> wrote:

>On 12 Jan 2005 03:23:00 -0800, "BigRab" <robert@earthsci.gla.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>except for the driving instructor who blasted his horn at me for being well out in the lane
>>(on a DC).
>
>I'm sure he was merely "warning you of his presence".
>
>A polite "thank you" wave is the standard reply.

And this morning a cager took the trouble to use the extra lane to
overtake me. When he pulled back in to the left, he flashed his hazard
lights at me and pointed repeatedly to the left.

I was totally gobsmacked at his ability to know which way I was
turning at the next pub.


--
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you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'.
... erm, how do they figure that one out?

Richard Bates

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:20:43 +0000, Simon Brooke
<simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:

>in message <t8rau0d4kqn6mujo506hkioqn6msdealr8@4ax.com>, Richard Bates
>('usenet01@artybee.net') wrote:
>
>> On 12 Jan 2005 03:23:00 -0800, "BigRab" <robert@earthsci.gla.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>except for the driving instructor who blasted his horn at me for being
>>>well out in the lane (on a DC).
>>
>> I'm sure he was merely "warning you of his presence".
>>
>> A polite "thank you" wave is the standard reply.
>
>For those not versed in cycling lore, it should be explained that the
>'thank you' wave is the one where only the pointer and middle fingers
>are extended.

That's only when you wish to indicate to the driver that there are TWO
lanes.

--
Amazon: "If you are interested in 'Asimov's I-Robot',
you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'.
... erm, how do they figure that one out?