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19-01.-2005, 06:11 AM
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Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on mountains.
Must be very weatherproof. Any recommendations? Gerald |
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19-01.-2005, 06:32 AM
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Re: jacket
"Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com> wrote
> Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on mountains. > Must be very weatherproof. > > Any recommendations? For genuine mountain use I'd pick a lightweight jacket more designed for walkers with a good hood rather than a cycling specific one. I like Berghaus's Paclite Smock. |
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19-01.-2005, 06:47 AM
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Re: jacket
"Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com> wrote in message
news:csjqij$96b$1@news.freedom2surf.net... > Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on mountains. > Must be very weatherproof. > > Any recommendations? > > Gerald Not really a mountain jacket I don't suspect but, I've been looking at the Altura Nevis for £50 or the Nevis Light for a little more. The Nevis seems to be a popular choice according to what I've read. I would be interested in people's opinions on these jackets and on the Altura brand in general. Thanks, -- Regards, Paul (R) My Lake District walking site: www.lakelandwalker.co.uk |
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19-01.-2005, 07:18 AM
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Re: jacket
"Paul Rose" <newsgroups@lakelandwalker.co.uk> wrote:
> "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com> wrote in message > news:csjqij$96b$1@news.freedom2surf.net... >> Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on >> mountains. Must be very weatherproof. >> >> Any recommendations? >> >> Gerald > > Not really a mountain jacket I don't suspect but, I've been looking > at the Altura Nevis for £50 or the Nevis Light for a little more. The > Nevis seems to be a popular choice according to what I've read. I > would be interested in people's opinions on these jackets and on the > Altura brand in general. Thanks, I got this jacket as an xmas present and so far i'd say it's an excellent jacket. Also got a pair of their waterproof trousers, so I'd say it's a very good brand. |
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19-01.-2005, 07:19 AM
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Re: jacket
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:11:01 -0000, "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com>
wrote: >Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on mountains. >Must be very weatherproof. > >Any recommendations? Dustbin bag. Or did you want something breatheable? I'm not familiar with current options, but I can perhaps offer a few pointers: 1) Breatheable jackets do not breathe rapidly enough to completely prevent build up of sweat/vapour when you are cycling. They are of course better than having something non-breatheable. 2) Taped seams are a must if you want absolute weather-proofing. 3) Elasticated cuffs and/or fastenings help to seal off drafts around gloves. I'm sure there are other good tips, but I can't think of anymore 'cos I've had 2 pints. -- Amazon: "If you are interested in 'Asimov's I-Robot', you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'. ... erm, how do they figure that one out? |
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19-01.-2005, 07:21 AM
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Idris wrote:
> Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on mountains. > Must be very weatherproof. > > Any recommendations? > > Gerald > > I can thoroughly recommend the Race Face ones and Chain Reaction usually have last years models at a good discount. Tony |
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19-01.-2005, 07:27 AM
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> Not really a mountain jacket I don't suspect but, I've been looking at the > Altura Nevis for £50 or the Nevis Light for a little more. The Nevis seems > to be a popular choice according to what I've read. I would be interested in > people's opinions on these jackets and on the Altura brand in general. > Thanks, > I am very pleased with mine. I bought one about 4 years ago and it's still waterproof. I bought a yellow one for road riding 2 months ago - if anything the design has improved - it's more voluminous. John |
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19-01.-2005, 07:38 AM
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"Richard Bates" <usenet01@artybee.net> wrote in message news:e1vqu0pmmt6be6k2ams8beas75elgrrjmc@4ax.com... > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:11:01 -0000, "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com> > wrote: > > >Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on mountains. > >Must be very weatherproof. > > > >Any recommendations? > > Dustbin bag. Or did you want something breatheable? > > I'm not familiar with current options, but I can perhaps offer a few > pointers: > > 1) Breatheable jackets do not breathe rapidly enough to completely > prevent build up of sweat/vapour when you are cycling. They are of > course better than having something non-breatheable. > > 2) Taped seams are a must if you want absolute weather-proofing. > > 3) Elasticated cuffs and/or fastenings help to seal off drafts around > gloves. > > I'm sure there are other good tips, but I can't think of anymore 'cos > I've had 2 pints. > > > -- > Amazon: "If you are interested in 'Asimov's I-Robot', > you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'. > ... erm, how do they figure that one out? Must be breathable and preferably gortex. Have looked at the Altura ones and they just aren't technical enough, they dont look as if they would keep you dry for long in a storm on a mountain.. Gerald |
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19-01.-2005, 07:53 AM
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In message <355cv8F4i19itU2@individual.net>, Tony Raven
<junk@raven-family.com> writes >Idris wrote: >> Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on mountains. >> Must be very weatherproof. >> Any recommendations? >> Gerald >> > >I can thoroughly recommend the Race Face ones and Chain Reaction >usually have last years models at a good discount. > >Tony I'll second that. Just got a Raceface Aquanot from Chain Reaction. A very tough, well designed cycling jacket for the depths of Winter. -- steve |
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19-01.-2005, 08:18 AM
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in message <csjqij$96b$1@news.freedom2surf.net>, Idris
('Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com') wrote: > Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on > mountains. Must be very weatherproof. > > Any recommendations? Three brands from countries with mountains where it rains a lot: Altura (Scotland) (I wear one of theirs and it's brilliant) Endura (Scotland) Ground Control (New Zealand) (My partner wears one of theirs and it's pretty good) -- simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; making jokes about dyslexia isn't big, it isn't clever and ;; it isn't furry. |
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19-01.-2005, 08:19 AM
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Paul Rose wrote:
> "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com> wrote in message > news:csjqij$96b$1@news.freedom2surf.net... > >>Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on > > mountains. > >>Must be very weatherproof. >> >>Any recommendations? >> >>Gerald > > > Not really a mountain jacket I don't suspect but, I've been looking at the > Altura Nevis for £50 or the Nevis Light for a little more. The Nevis seems > to be a popular choice according to what I've read. I would be interested in > people's opinions on these jackets and on the Altura brand in general. > Thanks, The nevis is an excellent jacket apart from the zip which can be a bit fussy. A chunkier zip would have been a better thing to put in as the current one (for the 2004 model) is a bit wimpy and can be difficult to get together with numb fingers and can start to spread from teh bottom. Otherwise a great jacket. ...d |
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19-01.-2005, 08:19 AM
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Paul Rose wrote:
> "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com> wrote in message > news:csjqij$96b$1@news.freedom2surf.net... > >>Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on > > mountains. > >>Must be very weatherproof. >> >>Any recommendations? >> >>Gerald > > > Not really a mountain jacket I don't suspect but, I've been looking at the > Altura Nevis for £50 or the Nevis Light for a little more. The Nevis seems > to be a popular choice according to what I've read. I would be interested in > people's opinions on these jackets and on the Altura brand in general. > Thanks, The nevis is an excellent jacket apart from the zip which can be a bit fussy. A chunkier zip would have been a better thing to put in as the current one (for the 2004 model) is a bit wimpy and can be difficult to get together with numb fingers and can start to spread from teh bottom. Otherwise a great jacket. ...d |
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19-01.-2005, 08:29 AM
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in message <csjvmh$al6$1@news.freedom2surf.net>, Idris
('Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com') wrote: > > "Richard Bates" <usenet01@artybee.net> wrote in message > news:e1vqu0pmmt6be6k2ams8beas75elgrrjmc@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:11:01 -0000, "Idris" <Idris@daviesrus.f2s.com> >> wrote: >> >> >Looking for a waterproof cycling jacket to wear whilst cycling on > mountains. >> >Must be very weatherproof. >> > >> >Any recommendations? >> >> Dustbin bag. Or did you want something breatheable? >> >> I'm not familiar with current options, but I can perhaps offer a few >> pointers: >> >> 1) Breatheable jackets do not breathe rapidly enough to completely >> prevent build up of sweat/vapour when you are cycling. They are of >> course better than having something non-breatheable. >> >> 2) Taped seams are a must if you want absolute weather-proofing. >> >> 3) Elasticated cuffs and/or fastenings help to seal off drafts around >> gloves. >> >> I'm sure there are other good tips, but I can't think of anymore 'cos >> I've had 2 pints. > > Must be breathable and preferably gortex. > > Have looked at the Altura ones and they just aren't technical enough, > they dont look as if they would keep you dry for long in a storm on a > mountain.. Try one. It will. You are using a *lot* more energy mountain biking than walking or even climbing. Breathability is a big premium, so is weight. You are not going to close your pit zips except on long downhills. An Altura Nevis with the pit zips open will keep you comfortable and adequately dry even in the most appalling weather (modulo problems around the neck, which it's pretty difficult to avoid particularly when wearing a helmet), provided you're moving. I'd agree it's not clothing to be stationary in on a mountain in winter. As an aside, sitting around the house with the central heating on, I'm wearing a cotton base layer, a silk shirt and a heavy woolen jersey. Out on my bike in this weather I'd be wearing one layer of 'roubaix' Lycra, and a light jersey or gilet with a windproof front. When you're pumping out three or four hundred watts you don't need much clothing to stay warm (although you do need to get into the warm pretty quickly when you stop). -- simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; If Python is executable pseudocode, ;; then Perl is executable line noise -- seen on Slashdot. |
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19-01.-2005, 09:47 AM
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Re: jacket
Simon Brooke wrote:
> Try one. It will. I learned a long time ago that nothing keeps you dry on mountains. The trick is to be able to be warm and damp, rather than have cold running water on you. And I have worn full mountaineering jackets in the hills in temperatures that are significantly colder (ex windchill) than one can normally find in UK outside of a commercial freezer. > You are using a *lot* more energy mountain biking than walking or even > climbing. Breathability is a big premium, so is weight. You are not > going to close your pit zips except on long downhills. I got my jacket. I opened the pit zips. They have not been closed, even at -5. The key to a good jacket is not breathable fabric, it is good design and venting. Pit zips and shoulder vents are good, then modify the base layer. If you don't like running water on your neck, get a buff or similar scarf. It works. ...d |
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19-01.-2005, 12:24 PM
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Re: jacket
Following on from Simon Brooke's message. . .
>You are using a *lot* more energy mountain biking than walking or even >climbing. Breathability is a big premium, so is weight. You are not >going to close your pit zips except on long downhills. An Altura Nevis >with the pit zips open will keep you comfortable and adequately dry >even in the most appalling weather (modulo problems around the neck, >which it's pretty difficult to avoid particularly when wearing a >helmet), provided you're moving. > >I'd agree it's not clothing to be stationary in on a mountain in winter. > >As an aside, sitting around the house with the central heating on, I'm >wearing a cotton base layer, a silk shirt and a heavy woolen jersey. >Out on my bike in this weather I'd be wearing one layer of 'roubaix' >Lycra, and a light jersey or gilet with a windproof front. When you're >pumping out three or four hundred watts you don't need much clothing to >stay warm (although you do need to get into the warm pretty quickly >when you stop). > My personal circumstances are: 1 - I get cold VERY VERY quickly. 5 seconds in the fish pond or 1 minute in 3 degrees C. (And it takes at least 45+ minutes to warm up..- Hands are obvious but same with chest and cheeks after cycling home with my fleece a bit undone at circa 8-11 degrees C.) 2 - I REALLY want to cycle 10 miles each way to the pub and back in the winter but wet and cold make it _impossible_. SO Bit by bit I'm learning.... (a) Take your glasses off - you're pissed anyway. (b) Put our balaclava on - Even rolled down as a 'scarf BUT This 'ain't athletic cycling. Mountains don't come into it! An average of 13mph in Essex isn't equivalent to Sizewell B in energy output. So my request is: (And I think this might be impossible ''cos I've been worrying at this a while) How can I get out at night when T<6 and/or precipitation=Likely? --------------------------------- A couple of years ago I was AMAZED that 10 degrees C at night was 'shirt sleeve' cycling. The idea that you could go out in this temperature was astonishing. 6 degrees is my current minimum with 2 layers all over and balaclava with hat. But to get back to the original subject what about if there's precipitation on the cards? -- PETER FOX Not the same since the deckchair business folded peterfox@eminent.demon.co.uk.not.this.bit.no.html www.eminent.demon.co.uk/wcc.htm Witham Cycling Campaign www.eminent.demon.co.uk/rides East Anglian Pub cycle rides |
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