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20-01.-2005, 04:36 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
Paul Rudin composed the following;:
> Itunes (or similar) solves this kind of thing. I have a standing order > to give my son a few quid a month on his itunes account. This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd rather not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck .. his £50 MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD Walkman ..  In the last year he's broken or lost three mobile phones, one MP3 player and a Walkman. He now buys them himself .. -- Paul ... http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php (8(!) Homer Rules ... "A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using." |
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20-01.-2005, 04:40 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
Paul - xxx wrote:
> > This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd rather > not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck .. his £50 > MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD Walkman .. > ...and getting iTunes music onto anything other than an iPod is something Apple make very very difficult (not impossible though ;-) Tony |
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20-01.-2005, 04:52 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
Tony Raven composed the following;:
> Paul - xxx wrote: >> >> This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd rather >> not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck .. his £50 >> MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD Walkman .. >> > > ..and getting iTunes music onto anything other than an iPod is > something Apple make very very difficult (not impossible though ;-) Which is another reason I don't have .. er .. I mean my son doesn't have, an iPod. And people moan at Microsoft ... where everyone has access ... -- Paul ... http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php (8(!) Homer Rules ... "A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using." |
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20-01.-2005, 05:41 AM
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Software monopolies (was Re: It's cool apparently)
in message <357oj4F4ic68tU1@individual.net>, Paul - xxx
('notcheckedever@hotmail.com') wrote: > Tony Raven composed the following;: >> Paul - xxx wrote: >>> >>> This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd >>> rather not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck .. >>> his £50 MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD Walkman >>> .. >>> >> ..and getting iTunes music onto anything other than an iPod is >> something Apple make very very difficult (not impossible though ;-) > > Which is another reason I don't have .. er .. I mean my son doesn't > have, an iPod. > > And people moan at Microsoft ... where everyone has access ... Err... sorry? Apple stuff only works on machines with Apple operating systems. Microsoft stuff only works on machines with Microsoft operating systems. Where's the difference? -- simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; Our modern industrial economy takes a mountain covered with trees, ;; lakes, running streams and transforms it into a mountain of junk, ;; garbage, slime pits, and debris. -- Edward Abbey |
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20-01.-2005, 05:41 AM
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in message <357oj4F4ic68tU1@individual.net>, Paul - xxx
('notcheckedever@hotmail.com') wrote: > Tony Raven composed the following;: >> Paul - xxx wrote: >>> >>> This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd >>> rather not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck .. >>> his £50 MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD Walkman >>> .. >>> >> ..and getting iTunes music onto anything other than an iPod is >> something Apple make very very difficult (not impossible though ;-) > > Which is another reason I don't have .. er .. I mean my son doesn't > have, an iPod. > > And people moan at Microsoft ... where everyone has access ... Err... sorry? Apple stuff only works on machines with Apple operating systems. Microsoft stuff only works on machines with Microsoft operating systems. Where's the difference? -- simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; Our modern industrial economy takes a mountain covered with trees, ;; lakes, running streams and transforms it into a mountain of junk, ;; garbage, slime pits, and debris. -- Edward Abbey |
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20-01.-2005, 05:51 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:34:03 -0000 someone who may be "Paul - xxx"
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote this:- >We don't allow them to swear at all, but recognise that they will whilst >out with friends maybe, and that they'll hear it all on TV anyway ... >and to be honest, they do hear it from me occasionally, whilst outside >the influence of swmbo .. I find that swearing at my computers (and related gadgets) a great deal means I almost never swear at anything or anyone else. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000. |
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20-01.-2005, 05:52 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
On 19 Jan 2005 13:09:45 GMT someone who may be
wafflycathcs@aol.compomcom (dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) wrote this:- >Indeed, but it's good to see that the average teenager finds it cool too. It >sort of makes my mid-life crisis seem a little less mad Cool mums shouldn't have one of those. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000. |
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20-01.-2005, 05:59 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
"Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes:
> Paul Rudin composed the following;: > >> Itunes (or similar) solves this kind of thing. I have a standing order >> to give my son a few quid a month on his itunes account. > > This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd rather > not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck .. his £50 > MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD Walkman .. > > In the last year he's broken or lost three mobile phones, one MP3 > player and a Walkman. He now buys them himself .. > Well - you don't need an ipod to make use of itunes. You can burn your tracks to CD or (with some minor hoop jumping) copy them to any old MP3 player. |
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20-01.-2005, 05:59 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com> writes:
> Paul - xxx wrote: >> This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd >> rather not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck >> .. his £50 MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD >> Walkman .. >> > > ..and getting iTunes music onto anything other than an iPod is > something Apple make very very difficult (not impossible though ;-) Not really difficult - you can burn to CD from itunes and then rip the CD back to MP3. Or you can use something like hymn <http://hymn-project.org/> to remove the drm stuff (which probably technically breaks the itunes terms of use...) |
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20-01.-2005, 06:22 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
Paul Rudin wrote:
> "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes: > > >>Paul Rudin composed the following;: >> >> >>>Itunes (or similar) solves this kind of thing. I have a standing order >>>to give my son a few quid a month on his itunes account. >> >>This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd rather >>not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck .. his £50 >>MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD Walkman .. >> >>In the last year he's broken or lost three mobile phones, one MP3 >>player and a Walkman. He now buys them himself .. >> > > > Well - you don't need an ipod to make use of itunes. You can burn your > tracks to CD or (with some minor hoop jumping) copy them to any old > MP3 player. > Any pointers to a simple "how to" guide for windows? The DRM issues have held me back from spending money on legal downloads but if there's a way around that, I may become a customer. |
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20-01.-2005, 06:45 AM
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Re: Software monopolies (was Re: It's cool apparently)
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> Apple stuff only works on machines with Apple operating systems. > > Microsoft stuff only works on machines with Microsoft operating systems. > > Where's the difference? The first one is demonstrably wrong, as my QuickTime for Windows plugin demonstrates. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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20-01.-2005, 07:53 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
In news:41eebc87$0$22502$7b0f0fd3@reader.news.newnet.co.uk,
Not Responding <nowhere@dev.null> typed: > Paul Rudin wrote: >> "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes: >> >>> Paul Rudin composed the following;: >>> >>>> Itunes (or similar) solves this kind of thing. I have a standing >>>> order to give my son a few quid a month on his itunes account. >>> >>> This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd >>> rather not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck >>> .. his £50 MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD >>> Walkman .. >>> >>> In the last year he's broken or lost three mobile phones, one MP3 >>> player and a Walkman. He now buys them himself .. >> >> Well - you don't need an ipod to make use of itunes. You can burn >> your tracks to CD or (with some minor hoop jumping) copy them to any >> old MP3 player. > > Any pointers to a simple "how to" guide for windows? The DRM issues > have held me back from spending money on legal downloads but if > there's a way around that, I may become a customer. How simple's simple? I downloaded hymn from www.hymnproject.org (or somesuch). It runs on the commandline, so it may be a bit tricky if you've got iTunes Music Store files all over the place. I convert them using dbPowerAmp, which has a downloadable AAC plugin for iTunes files. If you're just ripping the CDs, iTunes lets you rip to MP3, which is compatible with everything, obviously. A |
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20-01.-2005, 08:02 AM
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Re: Software monopolies (was Re: It's cool apparently)
Peter Clinch wrote:
> Simon Brooke wrote: > >> Apple stuff only works on machines with Apple operating systems. >> >> Microsoft stuff only works on machines with Microsoft operating systems. >> >> Where's the difference? > > > The first one is demonstrably wrong, as my QuickTime for Windows plugin > demonstrates. The second is demonstrably wrong as my Windows Media Player for Mac demonstrates. ...d |
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20-01.-2005, 08:42 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
Not Responding wrote:
> > Any pointers to a simple "how to" guide for windows? The DRM issues have > held me back from spending money on legal downloads but if there's a way > around that, I may become a customer. The "simple" way is to burn them to a CD and tnen rip the CD to mp3. The complex way is to use Hymn as a command line programme or slightly easier to use iOpener. Both available at http://hymn-project.org/download.php Tony |
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20-01.-2005, 08:57 AM
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Re: It's cool apparently
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:42:56 +0000, Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com>
wrote: >Not Responding wrote: >> >> Any pointers to a simple "how to" guide for windows? The DRM issues have >> held me back from spending money on legal downloads but if there's a way >> around that, I may become a customer. > >The "simple" way is to burn them to a CD and tnen rip the CD to mp3. But you will end up with a poorer quality result since you are taking a lossy file, converting to a non-lossy PCM format but still with the lossy artefacts, and then converting to another lossy format but with different losses. You end up with a file which contains double the amount of "lossyness". In practice you may not notice the difference. >The complex way is to use Hymn as a command line programme or slightly >easier to use iOpener. Both available at >http://hymn-project.org/download.php Hymn, as I understand it, does not involve any change in the music data - it merely strips out the copy protection. -- Amazon: "If you are interested in 'Asimov's I-Robot', you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'. ... erm, how do they figure that one out? |
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