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Old 17-07.-2006, 05:15 AM   #31
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[QUOTE=bikingarcola]Yes discontinued by Sun, the competition for swb recumbents must have been too fierce. Mine was purchased this spring, it is the 05 model. The suggested price is $1499 I think. As the news of Sun not making them for 06 got our the price went down. I got a good price on mine, but have moved on to a trike. Try it survice bad knees, shoulders and a bad back. It is a good bike with good components, sram x9 rear deraillure and x9 shifters. The 100lb Kenda Kwest tires, very durable. My bike has rear carrier, speedo, mirror, and kickstand as extras. The seat is comfortable and this bike has many adjustments for positions. Cant imagine anyone not being able to ride.

thanks for the info. Bikingarcola. . .I look forward to test riding it tue. . .any negatives youve personaly discoverd about the speedster?. . .Ive heard its rather heavy (which wouldnt be all that nice since I most often have to lift it to the car top carriers - but I guess Ill see that tue)
Yes it is a bit heavy but if yu want light you will have to pay for it. I just rode mine on a 40 mile ride. Avged 14.25mph not bad for the heat today. It would be perfect for a touring bike. It is tough as they come, some things could be changed to lose some wt. Maybe different cranks, chain, and seat could be lighted I think with a little thought. Good luck. Rusty
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Old 17-07.-2006, 10:04 AM   #32
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Im interested in buying the speedster as well. . .Ive heard theyve been discontinued for 06 - Is that true? . . .Im planning to test ride this comming tuesday July 19 on a speedster that is aparently a few years old. Depending on how old the bike is, I would imagine the age reflects the price I can expect to pay? Whats the quickest way to determine what year the model is? I understand there are three different grades for the speedster sx, cx, and somthing else. . .are the different models allways the same color regardless of the year (blue, silver, white) ?
The Sun SWB Speedster was originally designed by Gabriel DeVault, shortly after Easy Racer owner Gardner Martin died. Althought built like a tank, it suffers poor handling and cramped ergonomics. The absents of trail and lack of tiller means this bike's handling is squirrelly and overly sensitive at nearly any speed. Less than a year after the bike hit the market, Sun (J&B Importers) received numerous complaints its unplesant attributes. So many in fact, the Speedster was eventually dropped from production. I would encourage perspective buyers (especially firsttime owners) to test ride this bike extensivly BEFORE buying.
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Old 17-07.-2006, 12:33 PM   #33
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The Sun SWB Speedster was originally designed by Gabriel DeVault, shortly after Easy Racer owner Gardner Martin died. Althought built like a tank, it suffers poor handling and cramped ergonomics. The absents of trail and lack of tiller means this bike's handling is squirrelly and overly sensitive at nearly any speed. Less than a year after the bike hit the market, Sun (J&B Importers) received numerous complaints its unplesant attributes. So many in fact, the Speedster was eventually dropped from production. I would encourage perspective buyers (especially firsttime owners) to test ride this bike extensivly BEFORE buying.

I wouldnt disagree with this assesment entirely, but for a seasoned bike rider it does serve a purpose and can be ridden. My experience has been that it took a while to get used to. Now it is not a problem to ride, if the handlebars are in line with the front fork and the seat in the most upright position it handles very well for me. Then from there tweek your position. It wouldnt do for a first bike and maybe not as a first recumbent for someone who has not ridden a lot of miles. It has worked for me and I still think it would make a good touring recumbent, as stated above it is built like a tank with good components. Besides who wrote the above article?? The bentrideronline gives it a decent review and as with all reviews I would prefer to try the bike in question myself. There are many socalled experts with there own opinion, but most opionions do not cover all riders and thier needs.
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Old 17-07.-2006, 06:15 PM   #34
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The bentrideronline gives it a decent review


You can start here first: http://mnhpva.org/Meetings/2005/aug_05/pages/12.html

1.) when a publication such as bentrideronline gives a review of a paying advertiser's product on the same site, do you really think the reviewer is being entirely honest?

2.) were you aware that BROL is an Easy Racer sponsor?
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Old 18-07.-2006, 02:59 AM   #35
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You can start here first: http://mnhpva.org/Meetings/2005/aug_05/pages/12.html

1.) when a publication such as bentrideronline gives a review of a paying advertiser's product on the same site, do you really think the reviewer is being entirely honest?

2.) were you aware that BROL is an Easy Racer sponsor?


Thank you all for some very good input. I will defonetly take it all into consideration. I do still figure a test ride shouldnt hurt too much (depending on how squirly - I am new to recumbents).
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Old 18-07.-2006, 11:42 AM   #36
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Thank you all for some very good input. I will defonetly take it all into consideration. I do still figure a test ride shouldnt hurt too much (depending on how squirly - I am new to recumbents).

When you ride it line the handlebars up with the front forks and the seat in the most upright position you can. This will make the bike more stable to ride. Relax the shoulders and back, just ride it easy. Put enought power in the pedels to keep you upright. Just remember, if you havnt riden a bent before. The front wheel is under you and not in front of you. This and relaxing was the hardest things to remember. Good Luck
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Old 18-07.-2006, 11:45 AM   #37
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You can start here first: http://mnhpva.org/Meetings/2005/aug_05/pages/12.html

1.) when a publication such as bentrideronline gives a review of a paying advertiser's product on the same site, do you really think the reviewer is being entirely honest?

2.) were you aware that BROL is an Easy Racer sponsor?

Well I can ride it if the experts cant.
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Old 18-07.-2006, 03:08 PM   #38
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Well I can ride it if the experts cant.
Some rear wheel steering bikes (RWS), have in fact, been ridden, when the "experts" claimed they could not be - but usually at the expense of numerous hospital visits.
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Old 18-07.-2006, 06:46 PM   #39
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Some rear wheel steering bikes (RWS), have in fact, been ridden, when the "experts" claimed they could not be - but usually at the expense of numerous hospital visits.

This sun ax is not a rws bike!
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Old 19-07.-2006, 02:09 AM   #40
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This sun ax is not a rws bike!
I didn't say or imply that it was. You missed the punch line.
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Old 23-08.-2006, 10:08 AM   #41
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I have one of the early-2004 versions of this bike. I never noticed anything disastrous about the steering but then I am taller (6'2") and so I had the seat moved all the way back, and the riser was basically straight at the pivot. It did tend to ride squirrelly, but not much differently than other SWB's I test-rode. The handlebars seemed rather too wide, but I never changed them.

A short person probably couldn't set it up that way. That hardly makes it defective however; most bents (and other bikes as well) won't fit a really wide size range of riders effectively.

The front wheel was jittery in gravel at first, but that was because both tires were inflated to 100 PSI (their max). If you drop the front tire down to 80 PSI or so the steering gets a lot nicer on bad surfaces.

I got tired of the chain tube noise, and got rid of most of mine: why doesn't this board software allow you to paste text???? what's this stuff about editing mozilla config file? no other website seems to need that.....

As it happens mine is for sale but only because the frame turned out to be a bit too short for me; I got knee pain that did not occur on a second LWB bent that adjusted to much longer than I needed. (-I was asking $500, and got no interest--so I guess now I know why.... but a Speedster is still a big step above a BikeE however, and BikeE's commonly trade for $300).

The next year (2005) they offered two sizes of frames; the larger one is two inches longer, but I was not certain that two more inches would have been long enough. If they had offered a frame six inches longer, I would have considered it.
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Old 23-08.-2006, 11:07 AM   #42
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Yes Slugster, I didnt find the speedsteer any more or less difficult to ride than other SWB recumbents. You are right about the tire pressure, it can change the ride a lot one way or the other. I still ride mine, in fact 74 miles this weekend, it would make a good touring recumbent. Maybe the Al 7005 frame is a bit stiff but change the tire pressure and it softens up a lot. Everybody has there own opinion and that is ok, I have went to a trike because of steel and screws in my shoulder. A trike takes a lot of weight off of a lot of the body. Anyway thanks for your input. Happy Trails
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