Kim Sebrango as Director, Marketing Operations

Originally Posted by Van de Wille

Learn to read. I'm done with you.

Originally Posted by Van de Wille

Learn to read. I'm done with you.

Originally Posted by sub55

bitter, bitter man.

Originally Posted by Uboat

She hasnt' even started and you are blasting her? Guilty before proven innocent? Pathetic, Mr. Arzouian, honestly. Completely unprofessional and a reason why no one in the sport should ever hire you. Can't you see you are ruining what little (if any) credibility you have? Why would anyone EVER EVER hire you now, for anything?

Originally Posted by Eddie Arzouian

I am reviewing what she has done in the past.

I see nothing to indicate or suggest she will do better in the future. To use your analogy, not mine, she has already been proven guilty. Looking over the Ottawa Rough Riders and Soccer Canada, I see only mediocre results.

I thought you said I already had no credibility? How can I lose more? Why would I care?

The comments I was making before applying for the job are the same as I am making now. I make no bones about it, I would have been a far better person for the job, petty personal difference kept me out.

If you think I would ever kow tow to the CCA to get a job you do not understand me at all. I do what is right not what is convenient.

Ask Kinash why Lesley Tomlinson, a memebr of the CCA Board of Directors was not allowed to sit on the Selection Committee as she requested. They held it while she was out of the country. Convenient, huh? She was the one pushing to hire a Marketing Director for two years. They wait until she has left the country to call the committee.

That's how Bill Kinash is taking your assocation. He will pull something similar from his bag of tricks in November to get re-elected unless you contact your Provincial Presidents.


As I say, I'll wait. I think it very unlikely Ms. Sebrango will be in cycling for long. I'll think she will be here for a shorter time than she was in skating, that was two years.

Time after time the CCA has had an opportunity to hire people with cycling experience and they have chosen to hire people with none.

I believe this is a serious mistake.

Now, had I seen outstanding success in Ms. Sebrango's past I might have been inclined to give her more of a chnace.

I see Ticket Sales Director of a failed CFL franchise.

I see a marketing person for Canadian soccer, which even Van de Wille (who says he knows soccer) was telling us only in Febraury how CDN soccer is a failure in just about everything but mass participation with little kids.

I do not see how that will bring the CCA, with admittedly fewer participants than soccer programs, any success.

BTW, the CCA has been without a Marketing and Communications Director for more than two years. Do you really think they needed to hire somebody with no cycling experience at all? Why waste another year or so while Kim Sebrango tries to get up to speed on a complex sport with a very varied history and management from province to province, internationally and domestically and from discipline to discipline.

This is the person that will be commenitng on the sport to the media and she will scarcely understand it.

Cycling, unlike soccer has four complex disciplines.

Soccer is one game.

One set of rules.

We have MTB, Road, BMX, Track, and even with those disciplines there are great differences from one event to another and within them.

We will waste more precious time. 2006 will come and go with very few changes. By the end of 2006 I think you and she will realize her inability. She will leave and will have wasted a full five years.

I told you in 2003 that 2004 and 2005 would be lost and they have been. Look at the pathetic Canada Cup.

Look at the CCA Hamilton Foundation that has done NOTHING.

Where's that big annual event that was supposed to take place in Hamilton?

Look at how the shine of Meunzer's gold medal was lost to all marketing opportunites because Kinash said in a national interview he had no plans to use it.

Originally Posted by Van de Wille

Learn to read. I'm done with you.

Originally Posted by Van de Wille

Just for the record, because you're such a truth-twister that maybe, somewhere out there, there is a person with limited language skills who actually believes I said soccer was a failure:

The comment was in a thread about how the sport should be organized, not marketed. I said PRO soccer in Canada was a failure, which it is. I said that was because the European-style pro structure did not fit it, like the European-style pro structure doesn't fit Canadian cycling. This has nothing to do with marketing.

Marketing of soccer in Canada has been a success: they have TV deals, merchandise, revenue, partnerships, big name sponsors (JVC, Proctor&Gamble, adidas).

Ed, stop pulling phrases out of context (which, if read correctly, only prove what I'm saying anyway) and highlighting the word "soccer" like it's all that matters. You're making a fool of yourself.

Originally Posted by peloquma

Do you have kids ? Or are you one of those childless self serving over the hill complainer ? If you have kids, go see them, they desperately need your love (try and find it in you, I know you can buddy).