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12-07.-2005, 08:44 PM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
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You've had common sense thrust at you from people with more knowledge and understanding of racing than me and you still chose to ignore it. You have taken it upon yourself to be a Lance defender, discarding all logic for the cause. I hope you find a Lance hater soon so you can experience the banality of your style of debate. Here's your riddle. What do you call someone who is paranoid on behalf of someone else? |
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12-07.-2005, 09:28 PM
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Broaden your vision a little! Look up fag and tell me what it means! |
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12-07.-2005, 09:49 PM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
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 Lance must be so proud of fans like you.... |
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13-07.-2005, 01:52 AM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
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Except you are the one escaping the logic. He makes a good point - how many spring races did Ullrich or Landis or Leipheimer or Basso or Heras or Mayo or Valverde or "insert GC name here" win? You seem to be blinded by Lance hatred so much you can't see holes in your own arguments. Everyone who thinks he has a shot at TdF crown had equal opportunity to be fully fresh for first ITT. If they didn't they only have themselves to blame. All team leaders have 8 guys to shield them from winds in case they get in yellow. And if not, they will be shielded by Disco guys, even better. Instead of resorting to name calling as you like to do, deal with the points raised here. Namecalling implies you admit that you lost the argument and have no other resort than insult people... Why is your pompousness and arrogance so annoying?! |
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13-07.-2005, 02:01 AM
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Tours OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Can you say SEVEN????????????????? |
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13-07.-2005, 02:08 AM
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If it was over they would already be paying out. I don't see anyone doing that but you must know best. Your problem is that you are lacking in statistical understanding as well as humility and grammar. |
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13-07.-2005, 02:51 AM
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Nothing but a bunch of excuses for Ullrich and others for not beating LA. Let me get this straight - if Ullrich didn't have the crash, and if LA trained like everyone else, and if he told his teammates not to ride for him, and instead to ride for JU, then maybe the results would be different?! Brilliant logic! In the end you call me immature and ask me to study cycling history. How gracious (AND very "mature"!) of you. Since you despise Lance for racing only at the Tour, how about you name anyone else who manage to place on a podium at two of the three Grand Tours since 1998? The only one to do so was Beloki when he was 2nd at the Tour and 3rd at Vuelta! Seems like LA's competitors are doing the same thing as he does! You have now demonstrated total lack of respect for another person's opinions and total lack of ability to argue your point. Your brain is clouded by LA hatred, I am sorry to tell you that it will get only worse today as it seems your aussie boys and your T-mobile boys are not doing so well. By the way, I am not an american, I am european, and I am trying to be an objective observer here. But I do get a kick out of watching you Lance haters spinning the truth until your heads get dizzy. What I saw is a great per |
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13-07.-2005, 02:51 AM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
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Nothing but a bunch of excuses for Ullrich and others for not beating LA. Let me get this straight - if Ullrich didn't have the crash, and if LA trained like everyone else, and if he told his teammates not to ride for him, and instead to ride for JU, then maybe the results would be different?! Brilliant logic! In the end you call me immature and ask me to study cycling history. How gracious (AND very "mature"!) of you. Since you despise Lance for racing only at the Tour, how about you name anyone else who manage to place on a podium at two of the three Grand Tours since 1998? The only one to do so was Beloki when he was 2nd at the Tour and 3rd at Vuelta! Seems like LA's competitors are doing the same thing as he does! You have now demonstrated total lack of respect for another person's opinions and total lack of ability to argue your point. Your brain is clouded by LA hatred, I am sorry to tell you that it will get only worse today as it seems your aussie boys and your T-mobile boys are not doing so well. By the way, I am not an american, I am european, and I am trying to be an objective observer here. But I do get a kick out of watching you Lance haters spinning the truth until your heads get dizzy. What I saw is a great per |
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13-07.-2005, 03:17 AM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
good Lord folks. let it go.
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13-07.-2005, 03:54 AM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
I find the polarisation of views here distressing. This is not what the sport of cycling is about. Some people on this forum should learn some manners and have a bit more respect for every rider out there in the tour. How many seconds would you have lost on todays stage?
Pride cometh before a fall guys. |
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13-07.-2005, 04:12 AM
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My losses would be measured in hours, not seconds. Days, maybe, even. |
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13-07.-2005, 04:19 AM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
i'm fairly sure they don't make a cassette w/the ratio required to haul my fat ass up the mountain w/o going into cardiac arrest.
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13-07.-2005, 04:22 AM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
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Lighten the mood : I cycled that same stage that the TDF covered today back in 1995. 10 years ago. How long did it take me to cycle 200kms ? Ahem. Ahem. 9hrs 20odd minutes. Granted, I had ceased competitive cycling in 1990 and had done nothing on bike until we took that trip in 1995. I'd gained 4 stone over my competitive cycling weight too but even still, Valverde's time is 4hours + faster than me. |
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13-07.-2005, 04:30 AM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
what's a stone?
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13-07.-2005, 04:33 AM
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Re: T-Mobile strategy
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I have never been lucky enough to have ridden that stage , but I am sure I could get over the tops in less then a day or two. I probably could do it in under a day if I had trained for that particular stage. If I was to ride that stage, my team probably would have abandoned me days before , and left me isolated with the hitch-hikers and the backpackers. And I hate that !!!! |
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