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Old 23-01.-2006, 01:44 PM   #16
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JJ's 2007 Pro Cycling Season


Milan almost to San Remo

Paris to near Roubaix

Amstel gold-plated only Race

The Tour de most of France

Quebec - Contrecoeur

The Partial Tour of Flanders

Mini Tour Midi Libres

Paris - just short of Tours

Liege- Bastonge-Bastonge

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Old 23-01.-2006, 03:07 PM   #17
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Maybe I'll have a chance!
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Old 28-01.-2006, 06:06 AM   #18
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This article says several canadian athletes tested positive for a designer steroid at an event in Western Canada comprised of only Canadians - this year's road nats? Not pointing any fingers at anyone but things could go from worse to BAAAAAAAAAAAD in drug scandal terms!

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjourn...2214c18&k=41972
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Old 28-01.-2006, 06:55 AM   #19
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Yes.


And what will be served by it all?

Lives will be ruined.

Careers wrecked.

Dick Pound will prune a little with pride.

The labs will make more money.

Sport will not be one bit better off. It will not level any playing fields.

Just one more useless, unproductive and unsuccessful "War on Drugs".
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Old 28-01.-2006, 09:25 AM   #20
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Do you believe that athletes should use Performance Enhancing Drugs? Akin to the no-resrictions categories in bodybuilding?



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And what will be served by it all?

Lives will be ruined.

Careers wrecked.

Dick Pound will prune a little with pride.

The labs will make more money.

Sport will not be one bit better off. It will not level any playing fields.

Just one more useless, unproductive and unsuccessful "War on Drugs".
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Old 30-01.-2006, 10:04 AM   #21
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I think WADA is far too over zealous.

Penalities are unreasonable.

Too much of it is a scam.

I don't think people really care.
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Old 30-01.-2006, 12:35 PM   #22
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Sorry, I'll ask again. Can you answer this:

Do you believe that athletes should use Performance Enhancing Drugs? Akin to the no-resrictions categories in bodybuilding?


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I think WADA is far too over zealous.

Penalities are unreasonable.

Too much of it is a scam.

I don't think people really care.
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Old 31-01.-2006, 12:04 PM   #23
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If I may, I'd like to add a follow-up to Uboat's question.

What if an athlete chooses not to risk spawning an "autistic" and/or "deformed" child?

Should they be shut out in favour of the FDA-approved Olympics sponsored by (insert your pharamaceutical manufacturer of choice)?

And if the populace doesn't really care, why do athlete's continue to blame others for their downfall? Specifically, I'm refererring to David Millar's disgusting response to Gaumont's confession and Hamilton's (unintentionally) hilarious response to doping charges.
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Old 01-02.-2006, 05:19 AM   #24
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Yes, I think athletes should use some performance enhancing drugs.

Vitamins are performance enhancing drugs. Do you want to ban those?

I think the penalties are too steep and there are too many products being banned.

The testing is inconsistent at best.

Lifertime bans are too much. Fine the athletes. Identify them and let the market take its course. An athlete that is dirty too often won't be very sought after or approved by the media or the public.

Don't ruin people's livres.

Let them ruin them on their own if they insist and persist.
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Old 01-02.-2006, 07:52 AM   #25
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"Yes, I think athletes should use some performance enhancing drugs."

- Ed Arzouian


---- that's classic..

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Yes, I think athletes should use some performance enhancing drugs.

Vitamins are performance enhancing drugs. Do you want to ban those?

I think the penalties are too steep and there are too many products being banned.

The testing is inconsistent at best.

Lifertime bans are too much. Fine the athletes. Identify them and let the market take its course. An athlete that is dirty too often won't be very sought after or approved by the media or the public.

Don't ruin people's livres.

Let them ruin them on their own if they insist and persist.
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Old 01-02.-2006, 08:10 AM   #26
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That's what you wanted, right?


Of course, I did qualify it, didn't I?
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Old 01-02.-2006, 02:22 PM   #27
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I do not want my kids taking dope to perform better than the next person. I am willing to let GJ to take the fall if it protects my children's future health. GJ and her coach are a freak show any ways. Unfortunately, a big price to pay for Canadian cyclists. Good riddance to her and her coach.

I agree with your point regarding the dopers ruining themselves, but, you know who really pays the tab...you, me, Jon Jonson, Uboat, et al. In direct monetary terms, our tax dollars will pay for rehabilitation, whether invoiced through drug repercussions or a "on the job" scam.



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Yes, I think athletes should use some performance enhancing drugs.

Vitamins are performance enhancing drugs. Do you want to ban those?

I think the penalties are too steep and there are too many products being banned.

The testing is inconsistent at best.

Lifertime bans are too much. Fine the athletes. Identify them and let the market take its course. An athlete that is dirty too often won't be very sought after or approved by the media or the public.

Don't ruin people's livres.

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Old 02-02.-2006, 03:25 AM   #28
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BB,


Your kids will probably try drugs just for kicks, not for performance enhance, as I would suggest you or some or your friends have probably done as well.

Drugs pervade out society in pop culutre and sport. The only difference is that in sports, especially amateur sports, your entire career can simply be stolen by questionable and inconsistent tests.
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Old 02-02.-2006, 12:42 PM   #29
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especially amateur sports, your entire career can simply be stolen by questionable and inconsistent tests.
And inconsistent punishment. GJ got three strikes (I include the worlds at Hamilton). It should be ONE strike, "yer out". Long line of athletes to take the cheaters place. Eventually the risk will be too great to dope. Even taking a caffine tablet will be given a second thought.

A problem is that the country (or sport) that applies this strict punishment will be on the bad end of an unlevel playing field for awhile. If that is Canada (or cycling) , then so be it. Get it over with.
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Your kids will probably try drugs just for kicks, not for performance enhance, as I would suggest you or some or your friends have probably done as well.

Drugs pervade out society in pop culutre and sport. The only difference is that in sports, especially amateur sports, your entire career can simply be stolen by questionable and inconsistent tests.
Ed, you're making a fool of yourself. To anyone with half a brain, GJ was a dope-donkey from the start, and you were out there defending her. If anything, it shows how disconnected you are from the cycling scene, despite the "friends" you keep referring back to in the sport. So she tests again, and again, putting egg on your face, and you claim it's a societal problem. Maybe it is for you, Ed, but it may amaze you to know that there are some people of your very generation who've not gotten whacked on drugs, and that the probability that BB's kids will hit the pipe, joint, needle, whatever is low, though not negligible.

You're a disconnected dumb-ass. Get a job!
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