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06-08.-2005, 03:21 PM	#31
Basel Bill Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 4	Re: Book review: Lance Armstrong Tour de Force [QUOTE=noonievut]On the subject of books, I would like to read cycling books that are non-training and (sorry) non-Lance. Other than The Race & The Yellow Jersey, I can't seem to find any worth reading. A classic novel is 'The Rider' by Tim Krabbe (who's also written other cycling novels). You may also like 'Frency Revolutions: Cyling the Tour de France' by Tim Moore.

06-08.-2005, 04:40 PM	#32
BomoSammo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bournemouth, UK Posts: 39	Re: Book review: Lance Armstrong Tour de Force [QUOTE=noonievut]On the subject of books, I would like to read cycling books that are non-training and (sorry) non-Lance. Other than The Race & The Yellow Jersey, I can't seem to find any worth reading. If you know of any, especially if you can find them in North America, can you please post here. French Revolutions by Tim Moore is the funniest book i have read for a long time - you can buy it from Amazon in the US.

07-08.-2005, 02:47 AM

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Two of the best non-Lance 'I'm a really nice guy who happens to be a awesome cyclist in my own words' books are below..... if you can read German make sure read Jan's autobiograhphy 'Ganz oder gar nicht'................... great read without the Lance 'pumps his own tyres' parts.... he is honest and open.......

Do you know if theres a way to get that book in English? I cant read German and surely the publisher must realise a Jan ulrich autobiography would sell well to the English speaking world - at least well enough to make the translation and printing worthwhile.

Im currently reading the Tour De Force book by Dan Coyle.
From what ive read so far i dont think the guys a particulary talented writer , in fact his 'style' or lack of is rather annoying , but he has done his homework and the content is interesting and enjoyable and worth the money.

07-08.-2005, 03:19 AM

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Re: Book review: Lance Armstrong Tour de Force

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Im currently reading the Tour De Force book by Dan Coyle.
From what ive read so far i dont think the guys a particulary talented writer , in fact his 'style' or lack of is rather annoying , but he has done his homework and the content is interesting and enjoyable and worth the money.[/size][/font]

His 'style' is perfectly good IMO, he's an accomplished writer. You must be one miserable person if you get disturbed by an author's 'style' or lack of.

07-08.-2005, 07:52 AM

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His 'style' is perfectly good IMO, he's an accomplished writer. You must be one miserable person if you get disturbed by an author's 'style' or lack of.

lol what?

I just said its an interesting read and worth the money and Coyle has sepnt alot of time and done his homework on the subject matter to good effect : i just dont think the guys a brilliant writer thats all.
You do - good for you , im not going to call you names for it though.
Sheesh , get a grip mate.Theres nothing wrong in not liking a writers 'style'.

Whiteboytrash if you come back to this thread , do you know if the Ulrich bio is printed in English atall?

07-08.-2005, 09:09 AM

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Whiteboytrash if you come back to this thread , do you know if the Ulrich bio is printed in English atall?

Seems like you went out of your way to criticing him as soon as you opened your mouth, calling his style 'annoying.' Well if you thought that, then could I ask you to explain exactly what was so 'annoying' about his 'style?' From what I've read, it's very good and I can't find a flaw, nor am I looking for one, it's just a book about cycling, there aren't that many, you should be grateful. Now, if you were talking about the Linda Armstrong book, I might have understood your stance.

So what annoyed you about his style, Shakespeare?

07-08.-2005, 09:18 AM

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So basically its only ok to dislike something you do (in this case the Linda Armstrong book , which i cant comment on as i havent read it and am unlikely to) but if someone dislikes something that you dont then theyre miserable.Very tolerant of you.

Going out of my way to critcize him? I said i am ENJOYING his book and find it very interesting.
Mate , youve got some issues.
Take it easy.

Im done here - whiteboy , if you know anything atall about the Ulrich bio send me a PM if you dont mind? Thanks.

07-08.-2005, 08:01 PM

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Basically, Lance's cronies wanted to build the fastest TT bike in the world for the 2004 tour. They had seen Ullrich's success in the 2003 tour. So they went about obtaining a copy of his bike. The bike was made by Andy Walser in Suisse who only made a few frames a year for pros. They knew he'd refuse to sell a frame to trek, so they sent a european salesperson to his shop posed as a 'triathlete'. They got a bike, and by the time Walser discovered his true identity, the bike was already on its way to treks headquaters.

This may seem perfectly legal, but in my eyes that's not right. No-one other than Lance's cronies would go to that extent just to win the tour. Is that what Indurain would do? Is that what Merckx would do? To me that's not the act of a 'hero'.

I think Walser did know from the begining who did order the bike. Mr. Wagner was the chief of trek europe and Walser works for Team Gerolsteiner. They did use KLEIN bikes this time and who is the owner of KLEIN? A short way to find out true identity.
And by the way, why should he sell bikes to Bianchi and Giant and not to Trek the same time?

07-08.-2005, 08:29 PM

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Avoiding the question, genius.
You completely contradict yourself. In your first sentence, you say how he ''isn't a particulary talented writer and his style or lack of is annoying.''
You then say, ''he's done his homework and the content is good and enjoyable.'' I don't know how your mind works, but that's a complete contradiction to me, matey.

07-08.-2005, 08:29 PM

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No English translation unfortunately...... sad as it’s a good read... a very real account of his career and admits his failings... (food, growing up a TDF winner at 22, booze etc.)

07-08.-2005, 08:35 PM

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Now, if you were talking about the Linda Armstrong book, I might have understood your stance.

Linda Armstrong's book is awesome..... I'm surprised it didn't sell as many copies as Lance's book..... in fact I'm surprised it didn't sell as many copies as the bible......

ok lets have one more look at that hair ! LOL !

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08-08.-2005, 07:51 AM

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She has come a long way from housing projects in South Dallas.
I'll let her have her hair done, plastic surgery (maybe she was always that wrinkle free) but lets agree, we don't have to read or like her book.
I think people read it to get that little bit closer to Lance, I really think that is the motivation behind a lot of the star adulation stuff.
The fact that Lance chose to make a book out of his story was a no-brainer.
The fact that SHE did, well, I'd say it is questionable but folks who read it and heard her thought it was OK as that sort of thing goes.

08-08.-2005, 11:00 AM

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We'll never know the truth! And I didn't go out of my way to ''dig up dirt'' on Lance. Like I mentioned, I read it in a book and it suprised me that they'd go to those lengths, lengths which I find morally objectionable. Even if he did ride his older bike, it doesn't take anything away from what they did.

Correction: You'll never know the truth. It's been reported and documented. You just choose not to beleive it.

08-08.-2005, 07:48 PM

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Correction: You'll never know the truth. It's been reported and documented. You just choose not to beleive it.

I'm not so stupid as to follow what has been 'reported' and 'documented.'

08-08.-2005, 09:21 PM	#45
MJtje Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,125	Re: Book review: Lance Armstrong Tour de Force I didn't hear much about the book 'tour the force'.....more about 'lance armstrongs war' from daniel coyle which has been reviewed by most cycling sites as a very good inside into LA and some of his rivals......and also Dr. evil ! Anyone read both books........who's better?

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