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Armstrong used EPO in 99?

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Old 23-08.-2005, 03:20 PM   #1
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Default Armstrong used EPO in 99?

http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/...9-23210,00.html


So I don't get it. They tested a 7-year-old urine sample to determine that it had trace amounts of EPO?
Why were they keeping a 7-year-old urine sample around?
What's the integrity of testing a 7-year-old urine sample?

I have a feeling this is going to be difficult to substantiate ...

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Old 23-08.-2005, 07:15 PM   #2
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So I don't get it. They tested a 7-year-old urine sample to determine that it had trace amounts of EPO?
Why were they keeping a 7-year-old urine sample around?
What's the integrity of testing a 7-year-old urine sample?

I have a feeling this is going to be difficult to substantiate ...

It says on his website that there will be no recourse from this because L'equipe admits the science is faulty.

I wonder how long piss stays good???
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Old 23-08.-2005, 07:30 PM   #3
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Tjaah......I just read NOS and the lab director said ''no doubt he's positive but because it's an experimental test we can't do a follow-up test and he thus walks'' (rough translation).

But the WADA however can do something..........


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It says on his website that there will be no recourse from this because L'equipe admits the science is faulty.

I wonder how long piss stays good???
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Old 23-08.-2005, 08:42 PM   #4
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WOOOW the shit is really hitting the fan I'm reading sporza and some big people in cycling are speaking up.........damn too bad not a lot people can read dutch on this forum.

For the people who can:

http://www.vrtnieuws.net/sport_mast...g_di/index.html
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/sport_mast...e_di/index.html

Oke some interesting quotes from some people then:

Cofidis manager eric boyer: Is wondering if 'LA will tell everything now' OR 'will he just hire a whole peloton advocates....'

'You look at the tour and watch his demarrages and his arrogance. And then you discover it's all a lie, possible the biggest in 7 years. How believeble is he still?? (sorry for bad translation)

'I surely would like to know which doctors are responsible for this. Who are those bastards? I find it sad that the media discovered this and not the UCI'

Daniel Baal (ex-voorzitter of the french cycling union and he's now working for the UCI): 'The myth doesn't exist anymore. The lie is clear. I know that a lot of people don't want to critize LA and alway support him, but know you can't deny anymore......'

Strong words indeed.........
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Old 23-08.-2005, 09:15 PM   #5
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Sporza is constantly updating......they have a video on of Renno Roelandt (WADA): he says that LA IS positive....and that the french labo have done there work perfectly! And he said that the french even concluded that he gone 3 times for a cure for the 6 mountain stages.........

Reaction Leblanc: 'I'm being carefull (with his reaction), but this is alarming! I feel disillusioned, like many sportfans. Do I feel left alone by lance armstrong? Yes!'

Reaction Merckx: 'It is all sensational: he always told me that he never doped. If I had to chose between a newspaper and LA, then I chose for the information LA gives me! He should need to get the chance to defend himself'

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Oh I'm loving this, this is great entertainment.
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Old 23-08.-2005, 10:32 PM   #7
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WOOOW the shit is really hitting the fan I'm reading sporza and some big people in cycling are speaking up.........damn too bad not a lot people can read dutch on this forum.

For the people who can:

http://www.vrtnieuws.net/sport_mast...g_di/index.html
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/sport_mast...e_di/index.html

Oke some interesting quotes from some people then:

Cofidis manager eric boyer: Is wondering if 'LA will tell everything now' OR 'will he just hire a whole peloton advocates....'

'You look at the tour and watch his demarrages and his arrogance. And then you discover it's all a lie, possible the biggest in 7 years. How believeble is he still?? (sorry for bad translation)

'I surely would like to know which doctors are responsible for this. Who are those bastards? I find it sad that the media discovered this and not the UCI'

Daniel Baal (ex-voorzitter of the french cycling union and he's now working for the UCI): 'The myth doesn't exist anymore. The lie is clear. I know that a lot of people don't want to critize LA and alway support him, but know you can't deny anymore......'

Strong words indeed.........

Gee, why would a sports team manager jump on the bandwagon so fast?
And From Cofidis?
Lance and Cofidis are such good friends...
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Its frozen so stays good for a very long time.... I'm sorry but he is guilty.

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Old 23-08.-2005, 10:43 PM   #9
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You and me Ulle... I knew he was a cheat.... the others have gone very quite now haven't they !

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Old 23-08.-2005, 10:47 PM   #10
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I'm just saying what sporza is quoting no more no less........but youre right LA and cofidis are no friends....



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Gee, why would a sports team manager jump on the bandwagon so fast?
And From Cofidis?
Lance and Cofidis are such good friends...
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You and me Ulle... I knew he was a cheat.... the others have gone very quite now haven't they !

Its all gone quiet in america, oh its all gone quiet musetteeee.....
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Hein Verbruggen, president of cycling's governing body, the International Cycling Union (UCI), said: "We have to wait and see if this is true.

"Only then will we be able to ask ourselves whether there should be any legal action and whether this is a further blow for cycling. "I have to say this is not pleasant but, for the moment, it only involves Lance Armstrong and France."

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I'm just saying what sporza is quoting no more no less........but youre right LA and cofidis are no friends....
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Old 23-08.-2005, 10:58 PM   #13
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Yes musette is prowling the Disco websites and cannot find any good news.... :-)

I wonder what Jan's and Basso's reaction will be......... ?



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Yes musette is prowling the Disco websites and cannot find any good news.... :-)


LOL!!

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I wonder what Jan's and Basso's reaction will be......... ?

jan will think 'finally!!! - I knew big gears rule all!!!'
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Here is the front page of L'Equipe which has the four page spread inside which is titled 'The Armstrong Lie'

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