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06-02.-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
After 3 weeks of training I did my first 60 minute timetrial on my Cycleops Pro 300PT (with powertap in flywheel).
Age: 27 FTP: 276 Weight: 69.0kg Ratio: 4.00 watt / kg Quote:
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18-02.-2007, 12:55 PM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
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18-02.-2007, 01:36 PM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
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18-02.-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
This is gonna be good
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21-02.-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
I started training with power (Powertap Pro) on November 1st last year with stats of:
Age: 33 FTP: 261W Weight: 82.0kg Ratio: 3.18 W/kg Now, just under 4 months later those stats look like this: FTP: 322W (increase of 61W) Weight: 76.0kg (decrease of 6.0kg) Ratio: 4.23 W/kg (increase of 1.05W/kg) Rmur - What sort of times were/are you getting for 10/25mile TTs with your 4.35W/kg?? |
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22-02.-2007, 12:58 AM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
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Whew big increases in power there. Congrats on that. Re power, W/kg and speed/time, it's a bit of a mug's game. Pure uphill to hilly courses are dominated by W/kg whereas flat to rolling courses are dominated by W/Cda (aero drag). Then throw in wind, ambient temps & pressure (density), traffic, etc ... there are many more variables in the mix even if you know your CdA well from wind-tunnel or field testing.
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23-02.-2007, 11:37 PM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
Somebody took my new FTP out... fixing.. new FTP mostly from doing a lot
of 5-15 minute intervals, or just one 15 minute effort. the holster 370 67 5.52 Camoscio 340 62 5.48 scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course) musher 340 64 5.31 bigmatt 396 75 5.28 BullGod 365 70 5.21 joemw 354 68 5.20 whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12 gvanwagner 325 64 5.08 musher 318 65 4.89 Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55 bikeguy 340 72 4.72 W/kg Piotr 250 53 4.71 gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56 kennethn 320 70.3 4.55 JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54 PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!) peterpen 290 65 4.46 zaskar 280 63 4.44 midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43 joule 266 60 4.43 HammerHead 300 68 4.41 bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k rouleur 315 72 4.38 postal_bag 333 76 4.38 Thorman 340 78 4.36 rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM) Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19 Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12 dshep27283 345 80 4.31 RobM 312 73 4.27 cadence230 280 4.24 mattv2099 314 75 4.19 Stanette 313 75 4.17 Atsic 252 61 4.13 yzfrr11 310 75 4.13 Xav 318 77 4.13 pledac 285 69 4.13 Spunout 280 68 4.12 NomadVW 322 78 4.12 RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06 jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17 velobob 310 77 4.03 jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01 PaulMD 276 69 4.00 PeterWright 280 70 4 bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99 K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby! cube 290 73 3.97 Old Junker 250 63 3.97 velomanct 310 79 3.92 My02Sti 305 79 3.86 Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48 BlueJersey 230 60 3.83 robkit 280 75 3.73 amartinez 250 67 3.73 Trailhead 312 84 3.71 11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10 sugaken 240 66 3.64 woodgab 321 89 3.61 gggossel 266 74 3.59 bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46 Hookyrider 284 80 3.55 Krazyderek 260 78 3.33 AndROOb 232 71 3.27 spomanski 310 96 3.23 netscriber 143 47 3.04 -bikeguy |
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23-02.-2007, 11:48 PM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
I have revised mine due to trainer power overestimation - the new value is - if anything - a slight underestimation (5% or so).....but I lost a kilo too (over the winter!) so I'm happy....
the holster 370 67 5.52 Camoscio 340 62 5.48 scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course) musher 340 64 5.31 bigmatt 396 75 5.28 joemw 354 68 5.20 whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12 gvanwagner 325 64 5.08 BullGod 340 69 4.93 musher 318 65 4.89 Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55 bikeguy 340 72 4.72 W/kg Piotr 250 53 4.71 gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56 kennethn 320 70.3 4.55 JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54 PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!) peterpen 290 65 4.46 zaskar 280 63 4.44 midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43 joule 266 60 4.43 HammerHead 300 68 4.41 bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k rouleur 315 72 4.38 postal_bag 333 76 4.38 Thorman 340 78 4.36 rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM) Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19 Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12 dshep27283 345 80 4.31 RobM 312 73 4.27 cadence230 280 4.24 mattv2099 314 75 4.19 Stanette 313 75 4.17 Atsic 252 61 4.13 yzfrr11 310 75 4.13 Xav 318 77 4.13 pledac 285 69 4.13 Spunout 280 68 4.12 NomadVW 322 78 4.12 RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06 jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17 velobob 310 77 4.03 jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01 PaulMD 276 69 4.00 PeterWright 280 70 4 bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99 K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby! cube 290 73 3.97 Old Junker 250 63 3.97 velomanct 310 79 3.92 My02Sti 305 79 3.86 Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48 BlueJersey 230 60 3.83 robkit 280 75 3.73 amartinez 250 67 3.73 Trailhead 312 84 3.71 11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10 sugaken 240 66 3.64 woodgab 321 89 3.61 gggossel 266 74 3.59 bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46 Hookyrider 284 80 3.55 Krazyderek 260 78 3.33 AndROOb 232 71 3.27 spomanski 310 96 3.23 netscriber 143 47 3.04 -bikeguy[/QUOTE] |
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26-02.-2007, 02:02 AM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
I did a retest after 4 weeks.
My FTP increased from 276 watts to 297 watts. the holster 370 67 5.52 Camoscio 340 62 5.48 scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course) musher 340 64 5.31 bigmatt 396 75 5.28 joemw 354 68 5.20 whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12 gvanwagner 325 64 5.08 BullGod 340 69 4.93 musher 318 65 4.89 Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55 bikeguy 340 72 4.72 W/kg Piotr 250 53 4.71 gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56 kennethn 320 70.3 4.55 JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54 PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!) peterpen 290 65 4.46 zaskar 280 63 4.44 midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43 joule 266 60 4.43 HammerHead 300 68 4.41 rouleur 315 72 4.38 postal_bag 333 76 4.38 Thorman 340 78 4.36 rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM) Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19 Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12 dshep27283 345 80 4.31 PaulMD 297 69 4.30 RobM 312 73 4.27 cadence230 280 4.24 andoveradi 322 76 4.23 mattv2099 314 75 4.19 Stanette 313 75 4.17 Atsic 252 61 4.13 yzfrr11 310 75 4.13 Xav 318 77 4.13 pledac 285 69 4.13 Spunout 280 68 4.12 NomadVW 322 78 4.12 RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06 jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17 velobob 310 77 4.03 jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01 PeterWright 280 70 4 bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99 K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby! cube 290 73 3.97 Old Junker 250 63 3.97 velomanct 310 79 3.92 My02Sti 305 79 3.86 Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48 BlueJersey 230 60 3.83 robkit 280 75 3.73 amartinez 250 67 3.73 Trailhead 312 84 3.71 11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10 sugaken 240 66 3.64 woodgab 321 89 3.61 gggossel 266 74 3.59 bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46 Hookyrider 284 80 3.55 Krazyderek 260 78 3.33 AndROOb 232 71 3.27 spomanski 310 96 3.23 netscriber 143 47 3.04 DesFlurane 189 92 2.05 |
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01-03.-2007, 09:17 AM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
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01-03.-2007, 09:27 AM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
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01-03.-2007, 09:29 AM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
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How have you been training to increase your FTP? Do you do 20's?
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01-03.-2007, 09:40 AM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
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Actually this isn't the proper thread to discuss training details on in any case.
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09-03.-2007, 03:06 PM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
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age 48 result - 4th @ world duathlon! (never bike raced) years cycling - 1 wt - 52kg Better get off this machine and onto the bike! |
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20-03.-2007, 04:52 AM
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Re: Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?
AndROOb, This may be off the actually topic of the thread but is related and of importance to understand. This is not as simple as on race day you will able to (I guess being more motivated) as yzfrr11 stated yes that helps you mind is a very powerful thing. My educated guess is that currently your anaerobic metabolism is more activated, which will make your perceived effort seem harder at this time. What is going on is actually your aerobic system is working extra hard to utilize the lactate that is produced through anaerobic metabolism. Note lactate is only produced through anaerobic metabolism. As you prepare for your upcoming races the balance of Aerobic and Anaerobic metabolisms will shift if you hit your peak right, and know how to adjust training to do so. Also using average power from a set of intervals only for estimating FTP is better than nothing though does not tell the complete story measuring what is going on metabolically through lactate testing. Everyone should also understand that FTP is not a one size fits all distances, I commonly use different ratios of 60min FTP for my athletes depending on their lactate and power profiles. Note that most standard lactate testing protocols used in most cases overestimates (yes it is an estimate not an exact) what the FTP when 3min stages are used and do not take into account the contribution of anaerobic metabolism to the individual athletes state of training. On another note few use lactate testing during actual training sessions and is of greater value than lab controlled testing sessions which will show long term adaptations. So there is not an easy answer if by race day you will possibly be able ride at your estimated FTP for the full 40K.
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