Global warming

vadiver

Because Algore said so. nah, nah, nah...

You are right. I also believe in the next 10 - 15 years this will die down, then in about 30 years we will be predicitng the next ice age. Again, this is cyclical.

limerickman

There's no "if".

It is a fact - global warming is happening.





Is it because of humans??
Who created the means for gases to be emmitted?

I think you're getting confused.
You probably intended to write - is the emmission of green house gases the cause of global warming?????
Which would be a reasonable question to ask.




The case is closed as regards the fact that temperatures are increasing.

Or are you trying to suggest that temperatures are not increasing?

What may be disputed is what is causing the increase in temperatures.
But the central point, that temperatures have increased, is not in dispute.
Nor what is causing that increase - but we'll address that.






Who suggested that the costs were negligible?
I haven't read anyone here saying that the cost were negligible.

The cost of recommissioning everything that pumps green house gases in to the atmosphere - from powerplants, to planes, to cars - will be huge.

But if we chose not to address climate change - then we're snookered also.




The science - through observation and recording - has shown that temperatures are getting hotter.
The science isn't based upon an observation of a single year or season - "warmer-than-normal spring" - in a single location.
Average temperatures readings - over a time period and at different locations
are used.





Tons of snow in Alaska.
Maybe they should shift all that Alaskan snow to the Arctic - where huge tracts of ice has melted in the past five years.

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morelike hypocrisy.

ndbiker

I don't want to open up a can of worms, well OK maybe I do, but I found this websight. http://theanchoressonline.com/2007/02/26/. If this can be verified, which I'm sure it can, it puts President Bush in quite the juxtiposition to Mr. Gore. I found it while searching for information on carbon offsets. I can be carbon neutral for about $270. Buying a Hummer might up that about $75 a year. By Mr. Gore's reasoning why not? I'll be carbon neutral. It's sure cheaper than a geothermal heatpump or solar powered water heating. This environmental activism thing isn't so bad. I can feel good and get what I want at the same time. Ok guys I'm in. We're all going to die because of global warming. Buy OFFSETS!

Ratiocinator

Source: http://rense.com/general76/cow.htm

The UN report (PDF): http://www.virtualcentre.org/en/lib...ad/A0701E00.pdf

Cow Emissions Harm Planet
Far More Than C02 From Cars
By Geoffrey Lean
Environment Editor
4-19-7

Meet the world's top destroyer of the environment. It is not the car, or the plane,or even George Bush: it is the cow.

A United Nations report has identified the world's rapidly growing herds of cattle as the greatest threat to the climate, forests and wildlife. And they are blamed for a host of other environmental crimes, from acid rain to the introduction of alien species, from producing deserts to creating dead zones in the oceans, from poisoning rivers and drinking water to destroying coral reefs.

The 400-page report by the Food and Agricultural Organisation, entitled Livestock's Long Shadow, also surveys the damage done by sheep, chickens, pigs and goats. But in almost every case, the world's 1.5 billion cattle are most to blame. Livestock are responsible for 18 per cent of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming, more than cars, planes and all other forms of transport put together.

Burning fuel to produce fertiliser to grow feed, to produce meat and to transport it - and clearing vegetation for grazing - produces 9 per cent of all emissions of carbon dioxide, the most common greenhouse gas. And their wind and manure emit more than one third of emissions of another, methane, which warms the world 20 times faster than carbon dioxide.

Livestock also produces more than 100 other polluting gases, including more than two-thirds of the world's emissions of ammonia, one of the main causes of acid rain.

Ranching, the report adds, is "the major driver of deforestation" worldwide, and overgrazing is turning a fifth of all pastures and ranges into desert.Cows also soak up vast amounts of water: it takes a staggering 990 litres of water to produce one litre of milk.

Wastes from feedlots and fertilisers used to grow their feed overnourish water, causing weeds to choke all other life. And the pesticides, antibiotics and hormones used to treat them get into drinking water and endanger human health.

The pollution washes down to the sea, killing coral reefs and creating "dead zones" devoid of life. One is up to 21,000sqkm, in the Gulf of Mexico, where much of the waste from US beef production is carried down the Mississippi.

The report concludes that, unless drastic changes are made, the massive damage done by livestock will more than double by 2050, as demand for meat increases.

Patricia A. Doyle DVM, PhD Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics Univ of West Indies

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limerickman

By that logic - then mankind itself also contributes to CO2 emmissions every time each of us exhales.
(we inhale oxygen - we exhale carbon dioxide).
Coupled with the vast emmissions from cars/planes/power plants/homes : all contribute to the increasing level of greenhouse gas emmissions.

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

vadiver

Duh

Not to mention the number of people that are on the earth. In the past 30 years the US alone has added 100M 98.6 heat sinks.

But yeat the GW Alarmests want to blame it all on the Capitalistic Industrial Revolution.

And that is why so many people poo poo the GW science.

People want to quote this half degree centigrade increase in temp in the past 100 years. How does that compare to the past 500 years? Warmer or cooler?