What would you say about Bush?

Billsworld

OK, I hope I get to the theater before my suv melts the ice caps. oopps another leftie theory shot to hell. ...........Sorry Felty I am too far in ...save yourself

Eldrack

Lets do a little logic exercise here.

Point 1: Car exhaust fumes are toxic, contribute to smog and contain greenhouse gases.
Please note at this point that I am making no assertions about global warming. Greenhouse gases exist and have an effect. Thats proven. Whether they will effect earths temperature is irrelevant.

So, looking at point 1, consider this. Car A which does 50 miles per gallon or your typical SUV Car B which does 10 miles to the gallon of petrol (gas).

Which is better at performing the task of getting you from point X to point Y which is the cars intended task. There is no difference. In fact the more fuel efficient car is probably better as it will be smaller and so can be parked more easily. Other than that, due to speed limits, there is no difference.

So since they both perform the task they are designed for we look to other criteria. Many small, fuel efficient cars score 5 point (out of 5) safety ratings for both passengers and pedestrians where as many SUV's score lower in the first area and all are worse in the second area.

The small, fuel efficient car is cheaper to buy, less tax on it (depending on where you live) and uses less fuel to run. It also produces less of the toxic gases as shown in point 1.

So which is the better choice? I don't think it is hard to say that based on a logical arguement everyone would not drive SUV's but instead full efficient cars (e.g, Toyota Yaris to name but one) for going around town. Need more space for the kids, plenty of MPV's that have 3 times the fuel efficiency and half the cost of an SUV and can carry more people. Remember the name, Sports Utility Vehicle. Not Round Town Vehicle.

And I haven't even considered the icecaps, don't need to.

And whilst you have saved $30000 when you buy the car, and $5000 you save every year from using 20% of the fuel you would with your SUV. Well, you could do something useful with it, like give it to a charity that helps people who have say, motor neurone disease. Or something else equally deserving.

Wurm

It's not a matter of "bitterness" [Felt Rider], nor a matter of "govt programs for everything" [Billsworld]. (But since you mention gov't programs Bill, let's see you talk about the record tax breaks for the rich and corporations, and corporate welfare/giveaways that have come from Chimpenfuhrer's gov't)

No, it is clear matters of constitutionality, legality, and ethical behavior/morality that I have a huge problem with the recent crop of Repigs on. ie: see Ned's post #75 above.

Wasn't it Jefferson who said that gov't is to be a buffer between the landed and powerful and the common people, so that the average man will be afforded protection against those that would enslave him?

Gov't was NOT meant by the Founders to be in bed with the powerful, big business interests. When it is, that's a large part of the definition of fascism.

Well gentlemen, that's what we have today in the US.

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Billsworld

Honestly, I was half joking. I am in favor of anything that conserves energy. I am too lazy to do alot research on the subject, but I have my friend and computer geek consultant send me any new news on a variety of subjects . One of them is alternative energy. Biodiesel , wind, solar etc.. I have an issue with the govt being too active in forcing the issue, but I hope we see more changes in moving away from oil. It makes sense any way you look at it . Some day I will learn to cut and paste . Then Wurm and I can have the battle of the links

Billsworld

I am with you. Destroy it and start over. No social tinkering though. I am listening to what your tax code would look like.

Wurm

Lefty theory it isn't. It is simple fact. But you've never let facts stand in your way before...

You see, this is why it is usually pointless to debate anything with you or your ilk.

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

- John Dean, former Counsel to the President (Nixon)

The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.

Billsworld

There is too much science to say your wrong. My general feelings about it though , are we should adopt something similar to cafe standards for emmisions to gradually move us away from oil. I dont feel strongly enough about it to debate it either way.

Billsworld

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htmSorry if it doesnt work

limerickman

I have no interest in US property/real estate etc.

If you say you've done this - we have to accept your word.
Although I still doubt that you have any understanding of economics - not that having an understanding of economics is a pre-requisite to running your own business.

With your country's interest rate about to go up for the 17th consecutive month : I reckon real estate could be difficult to sell.
But that's only a guess.



Banks will give money willingly - to anyone with a business plan.

Until you repay the last cent of that 10million - the bank own you.

The secret, my friend, is to have zero borrowings and to be liquid.
If that person has assets, well and good.

No use being leveraged up to your eyeballs, no matter how busy your business may be.



Slightly technical issue - you don't amortise fixed assets.
Fixed assets are depreciated.
Intangible assets are amortised. Your oven is a fixture and fitting, it's a fixed asset, therefore it is depreciated.

In respect of taxes - the Republicans issues a tax holiday to US multinational firms to repatriate profits earned abroad on a tax free basis.
Why's that? They did this because US companies are leaving the USA and setting up businesses in locations where productivity levels are far higher than in the USA, where goverment create a more "pro business" culture than the USA. In addition, your country's ability to raise funds through taxes is a problem.

We have US companies announcing expansion plans here on an almost weekly basis.



Well Bill, I can't verify what small talk you may be listening to "down on the site" among the ex-pat community, but let me tell ya, what you've posted here about Ireland and it's economy is just more of the same crap that you've been spouting since yesterday.

Ireland has been outperforming every other first world economy since 1997.
Our economic model works. And it's a social model.

But don't take my word for it.

If you can remember back to your economic lectures - you would have covered an organisation called to OECD.

Here's what OECD report says about Ireland and it's economy :

"For more than a decade, Ireland has been the OECD's star performer."

You can read all about it in the OECD report dated January 2006
http://www.oecd.org/document/48/0,2...1_1_1_1,00.html

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morelike hypocrisy.

Thaibiker

apparently Bill knows more than the economists *and* the climate scientists!

Billsworld = Rennaissance Man

Billsworld

Bill just wants to work pay his bills, and not support every layabout with thier handout.

Thaibiker

Limerickman is right. The other concern about real estate is the proliferation of no-interest loans - in which nothing but the interest is paid on for several years. Add that to the fact that most Americans are buying more house than they can afford - and the rising interest rates - and I think you have the makings of a very disasterous situation.

But, hey, could be wrong. I am NO economist

Thaibiker

well, that's just like us. The need to end corporate welfare is something we can all agree on, I think.

Billsworld

Sorry I meant depreciate. The 60k was considered income. and the point is that the tax laws are too complicated and common sense goes out the window. ..........Even with the best bus plan you still need 20% down.............I borrowed 9 mill, and owe 500k with 5 units to sell on phase 1. .....sales are not brisk at the moment.