Motorcycles on bike paths

Ideologue

I thought you just said ‘let’s get back to the topic at hand’?

With respect, I think you should look over my first couple of posts again, as I answer most of your points within them.

You are thinking of a regular bicycle from a bulk-seller with a V4 or something strapped to it. This is not the case with my project. The bike will be perfectly safe at around 100mph. Many tiny-tired road bicycle racers have been ridden at well over 70mph (under human power) and their riders remained in perfect control. My bike will be designed specifically to achieve the specifications I seek.

To repeat myself: I said that the only sort of bike that should be allowed on the cycle paths should be the power-assist type. Because the power-assist bike can have it’s engine cut prior to entering the cycle path and then ridden under human power alone whilst on the cycle path. That’s versatility.

Power-assist petrol ICE, such as the Golden Eagle ICE, weighs only 10lb. The mounting kit weighs only a couple of pounds and it burns fuel at around 300mpg. The Golden eagle kit has the power to propel a rider and bicycle at 30mph. The initial design for my power-assist project included the ICE from the Golden Eagle kit and also a 6-11kw electric motor with a lithium battery. The ICE weighs about 10lb, the electric motor weighs around 12lb and the battery weighs around 33lb. The battery will provide for about ten minutes at 100mph, or around 10 hours at 10mph before it needs a recharge (from the ICE). So the fully loaded bike will weigh a total of approximately 50kg, or about the same as a heavy downhill bike.

And again, the [high] power-assist bikes are not illegal if they are registered, etc. I am not familiar with the intricacies of Australian law, but I am pretty sure that is right. If I choose to register my power-assist in the UK, I will use a rolling number plate, so that it can be hidden from view when not wanted.

beauyboy

ok Time for me to but in, time to get down to the crunch of this vehical. I don't know about other states but in Qld we have 200watt limit on power assited vehicals on bikeways. Personally i do not care about this vehical you are making i love my bike cos i power it and is a demonstration of me and my well being. Anyway by the sounds of it what ever you are making is going to be more powerful then 200watt and there for would not be pomitted on a bikeway. Anyway that thing attached in that photo would be atleast a 2hp moter or 1.5kw and there for not promitted on bikeways.
There is no way you can tell us that this will be less the 200watts moter and attain those speeds cos the power that the tour de france riders put out during there rides is 400watts and that is only with a top speed of 70kmph on the flats.

Beauyboy

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Jeytown

can i ask idealogue why you would want to hide your registration plate as far as i know there exists in no country the provision for such a practice

it seems to me throughout this entire thread you have just made it your mission to flame

i wish that you have a good day and bid you well im not into mollycoddling wannabe novellists that have little or nothing to add to a discussion between humans.

i would vote no to motorbikes any shape or form in bike lanes.

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im done with this thread

Ideologue

You may ask, but as you are obviously incapable of holding a sensible discussion I shall withhold my answer.



Seriously, are you joking? Because otherwise such an accusation is very easily shown for the blatant untruth that it is simply through reviewing my posts that are actually within this very thread.

You know, it is a basic tactic of criminals and wrongdoers to accuse their opposition, or just anybody else really, of the exact same thing they are guilty of! Such a practice is intended to divert attention away from them and try to make someone else seem like the bad guy. You insult the intelligence of the forum members here by even attempting such a thing. It is extremely clear who the aggressor here is, and it is you. Your feeble efforts to escape that fact are in vain; your claim is completely without merit. If you were not so tiresome it would be laughable.



So you admit to trying to make this discussion some sort of contest with a scoring system then? Pathetic.



Good.

gclark8

I can't be bothered with this topic any longer! Too long winded....

Blessed are the short winded,
for they shall be read.

Who invited a Pom to comment on our Aus Forum?

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Ideologue

You are asking things and raising things that I have already dealt with in this thread:

* I have already written that the bike will have up to an 11kw electric motor, as well as the ICE (which is about 1.2hp).
* The power-assist bike will be legal on cycle paths because the engine will be switched off and the bike will be ridden pedal-only.
* The bike is a power-assist. That means that the rider can pedal with the motor on, use the bike purely under the power if it’s engine without pedaling, or pedal only, i.e. ride with the motor switched off just as a regular bicycle.
* The bike will be legal if it is registered.

At the moment I am actually looking into using a compressed-air motor with lightweight toroidal tanks to hold the compressed air. So it might not even have an ICE or electric motor in the end (although it might carry a small ICE to use to compress air whilst stationary in order to refill the air tanks, when out in the middle of nowhere).

asterope

its pretty obvious why ideologue would want to hide his registration plate...

its for the same reason hes "building" a bike that goes over 100mp/h... :P

oh and please, spare us the evangelising and holier-than-thou attitude, its obvious that everyone is inferior of mind in your eyes... just watch as we all cower before your greatness. *rolls eyes*

im with gclark... this thread has turned to S**T... im bored already.

Ideologue

God did personally. Because I am the Divine Pom.

Ideologue

You mean you are a moron too? Yeah, that was made pretty clear by your last post.

asterope

dude... just give up. you arent the least bit amusing and you certainly havent contributed any RELEVANT input into this thread which is concerned with MOTORBIKES in BICYCLE LANES in AUSTRALIA.

yup, gclark and i are morons, through and through, infact we attend morons anon meetings every weekend on our bicycles which we power with our own feet (primitive as that would seem to you...) didnt you hear? we now come in six packs!!

at least we contribute relevant opinions to this thread and dont go spouting off on some tangent about a powered bike thats clearly illegal in this country, hiding registration, or outrunning drivers which we have pissed off by flipping them one.
will you PLEASE stop talking yourself up, its getting really old.

Ideologue

Well actually I beg to differ. I made a perfectly valid contribution to this thread, and it was on-topic too. But then, all of a sudden, I was beset by a brain-dead idiot who single-handedly has proven my theory correct that making high technology available to peasants and plebs is a really bad idea. It is a damned shame that the Internet gives a voice to those with only bile to spew; those with nothing good to say, and yet they speak out regardless. And instead of this cretin receiving criticism for unjustified outbursts, others, with equally redundant mental ability, join his ranks! Yeah, got to love the f’ing Internet.

You know, here in the Northern Hemisphere some have branded Australians ‘antipodean’. They must have come up with that description after meeting the likes of you and the other low-grade cerebrally bereft asinine fools of the Southern lands.

asterope

*yawn*

munga

Thanks for the generalisation.

Back On Topic, I can relate to motorcyclists wanting to use bikeways that take the shoulder of busy roads in the city, but to use bikeways constructed off the main transport lanes is ridiculous. Besides, I use the Ipswich motorway daily for my commute to work and the number of lane splitting motorcyclists is worrysome. They don't need to take our bikelanes, they do a good enough job of making their own.

SpiderJ

You could motorpace them next time!

EDIT: I just read the rest of the thread - interesting!