Quana: I Told You So!

limerickman

The 4 terrorist attacks that were prevented - you stated this yesterday.
Can you tell us which attacks were prevented and when?



The 4 terrorist attacks that were prevented - you stated this yesterday.
Can you tell us which attacks were prevented and when?

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

Carrera

The storing of terrorist information, Jihadi videos, bomb making materials e.t.c. is a known phenomenon. A number of raids have been carried out this year alone. If you're interested, there is information on some aspects of this available. I don't see the point of going over it repeatedly.
If todays events haven't altered your view, nothing I say whatsoever is going to change your outlook.
"so having porn on your PC, and having a criminal record, entitles the police to shot an unarmed person?"
The accusation was of non adult porn being found on the P.C.
He also had a record for armed robbery which means he used a gun at the time and there could have been guns in the house.
"Criminal cases? Few raids have produced court cases concerning terrorism, I'm afraid."
Hamza - that's one. Others were kicked out.

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Carrera

You seem to have your needle stuck.

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"Everybody has a philosophy. However, what philosophy you have is a matter of choice, and most people don't make a conscious choice with regard to what philosophy they accept."

limerickman

4 terrorists attacks that were prevented.

Two days ago, here, ou stated that 4 attacks were prevented.
When and how were these 4 attacks prevented?

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

Carrera

If I were you, I'd be far more worried about the effects of all this on the economy than asking me for proof over information that's readily available anyway. Ask MI5, not me.
Any idea how much it's going to cost to screen passengers at these airports? Bearing in mind there is so much fear of racism, all passengers will be screened. Then there's the cost of I.D. cards.
Let me tell you, this is costing billions of pounds in taxpayers money and millions of pounds lost from tourists who are getting nervous over coming here. And make no mistake, people do tell me from abroad they consider London is dangerous at this time.
Meantime, China is booming and industry developing at a staggering rate. Also note, there is no problem over terrorism in China and no terrorist attacks in China. How are you going to compete with that in Ireland?
You folks in Britain have made a terrible mistake. If so much effort had been put into developing industry and defence as it has with respect to trying to incorporate Islam into the system we wouldn't be in this mess.
That's what you should be worrying about.

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Carrera

I know the Irish have a certain reputation for being a bit dim (check out the best Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman gags) but recently I learned it's true. Maybe only an Irishman would state the term "about 4" is a concrete digit.
Maybe some other poster will share if "about six" miles on their bike is approximate to "6 miles".
Besides, 4 is an understatement.

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darkboong

It appears that the Englishman is the moron in this case. You claimed that you couldn't even remember your own post made a few hours before...



As of the time of writing you must have had > 1 foiled attack in mind, share it with us, or put up and shut up.

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Carrera

Who said I was English?
This is a stupid argument it seems to me. I don't see where it's heading? In fact, it's a rather insignificant quibble over words, mainly the term "about 4 attacks".
Surely, if I told you I cycle "about" 24 mph on such and such a road, the sense is I'm generalising about the speed.
When I said "about 4 attacks were foiled", I was making a general statement as the truth is scores of attacks are being analysed all over the globe and in this country too. Surely I can't be expected to count and number every single case, proven or unproven. For what purpose?
If I go into detail over specific circumstances, the post winds up being deleted which is something you ought to know by now, darkboong. It's pretty clear you guys simply don't want to know.
I know where this is heading. We've been here before. You guys are trying to make out there's no terrorist threat and that likewise no terrorist attacks have ever been prevented on the grounds that no terrorist plot ever was fabricated in the first place.
If you're serious, why question me? Get in touch with MI5 and tell those guys they've got it all wrong and that they prevented zilch so far.
"Anti-terrorist police who burst into the Finsbury Park mosque in north London early yesterday found weapons including a stun gun and hundreds of suspected forged or stolen passports, identity and credit cards.
They also found a CS gas canister and a blank-firing imitation firearm at the building, which security forces believe has been used as a haven and base for Islamic fundamentalist terrorists."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai.../21/nmosq21.xml

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Carrera

"1 foiled attack in mind......"
http://edition.cnn.com/

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"Everybody has a philosophy. However, what philosophy you have is a matter of choice, and most people don't make a conscious choice with regard to what philosophy they accept."

limerickman

The only one who's dim is here is you, clown.

Once again, you stated two days ago that 4 terrorist attacks were prevented.

I'll ask you once again - tell us when and where these attacks were prevented.

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

limerickman

You introduced the claim that 4 attacks were prevented.
if the argument is "stupid" - why did you make that claim ?
You posted a claim about 4 attacks - I want to know when and where those attacks were prevented.




So you're now retracting your claim about 4 terrosits attacks being prevented?
You were just making a general statement, is that what you're now claiming in relation to the four terrorist attacks being prevented ?








Well you counted four attacks two days ago.

And now when you're asked to clarify that claim, you can't.

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

Carrera

Let's throw a spanner in the works. You answer my question first in detail and then I'll list you 4 attacks that have been prevented.
Incidentally, put me on record as saying I'm reserving judgement on the latest case as I prefer to wait and see what actual evidence emerges. I know better than to rush into cases that hit the media.
Now, your question:
How did Lance Armstrong avoid being charged with dope when Floyd got caught? After all, Floyd was on Lance's team, correct, and so was Tyler Hamilton?
How come Floyd and Jan got busted and not Lance?
Are Jan and Floyd drug cheats and not Lance?
Does this mean Lance is the greatest cyclist ever to have lived?

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"Everybody has a philosophy. However, what philosophy you have is a matter of choice, and most people don't make a conscious choice with regard to what philosophy they accept."

limerickman

I could well throw a spanner in your works.

And this ain't a trade off - you tell me this and I'll tell .............

4 Terrorist attacks that you claim were prevented - tell us where and when these attacks were prevented.

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

Carrera

The first point: The guy who was on the news broken hearted this evening, swearing his son has no involvement in this latest plot. I hope his son is indeed innocent. I have a feeling some of these people may be innocent so let's hope those who are innocent are cleared.
As to your other question, it's very simple.
There are those who talk about terrorism and fall under suspicion. There are others who actually travel to overseas location and join actual,specific groups.
It's people such as David Blunkett who know the information pertaining to actual preventions you will never come across yourself. Then you have the covert agencies that deal with phone-calls and internet or whatever.
Of course, I'm aware what you're driving at - the idea there is no terrorist threat to the U.K. at all and that, by your account, not even 4 cases have been prevented so far. Then again, you also believe Arabic is as ancient as Hebrew and that Israel never existed on any ancient map.
Seems you make a living out of apparently knowing more about stuff that others might specialise in. So, I guess you know far more than the FBI, CIA and M15 put together.
Well, if it makes you happy, fine.

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"Everybody has a philosophy. However, what philosophy you have is a matter of choice, and most people don't make a conscious choice with regard to what philosophy they accept."