Quana: I Told You So!

Carrera

I gave you some of this information already and you ignored it?
The stuff about the Finsbury Park mosque was in the newspapers some months ago. That was one incident where they found all sorts of stuff, videos, small arms, manuals. Bakri, surely you heard of him? Hamza, why was he in court?
You appear to know not very much about this topic. Or perhaps you defend extremism?

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limerickman

That's what you do.



The stuff about Finsbury Park? What stuff? Was there a terrorist attack prevented in relation to Finsbury park? Is that what you're saying?

What charges were levelled against Abu Hamza?
Are you contending that Hamza was plotting a terrorist attack?
If so when was he charged with plotting a terrorist attack?
And when was this terrorist attack prevented from happening?

Bakri?
When was he charged with trying to commit a terrorist attack?

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morelike hypocrisy.

Carrera

Limerickman, surely you keep up with the news or watch media? Even on programs like Hard Talk, Tim Sebastian discussed this stuff. In fact, they had Hamza on Hard Talk some months back.
Myself, I watch BBC News 24, ABC News, Newsnight and regular news bulletins. Plus I do other research as a matter of course.
Clearly you're not convinced there is any terrorist threat at all. While I agree the threat can be exaggerated on occasions and mistakes made, I don't have any doubts at all that there is a security threat to many countries.
If we disagree then I guess we disagree, I'm afraid.

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limerickman

The 4 Terrorist attacks that you claimed were prevented - tell us where and when these attacks were prevented

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

darkboong

"Life is not precious to them. . . . They're willing to kill women and children in order to achieve a tactical advantage." - George W Bush.

That's the IDF way.

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Jeytown

okay

heres my summary of this thread

all parties can correct me if im wrong

careera

starts thread about quana

but the most interesting part of this whole thread was that carreera did not ever quantify or qualify his statements other than a link to a third party website over their version of the events of a war they are not taking aprt in

and then when it went bad he cherry picked the opposing arguments statements and answered only parts that best suited him,

he also claimed to be in the secutrity services

im interested in this fact becasue the real security experts would not even bother wasting their time flaming the cycling community over something that is far beyond the fixable realms of cycling

i beleve his comments relating to his employment are true he does work in security but perhaps guarding shops or carparks is more his area of expertise

when questioned over his now proved absolutely unfounded and unbiased statements over 4 prevented attacks he simply replies with double talk and more cherrypicking.

i find that his comments were proved fruitless beyond all reasonable doubt by me self appointed ruler of xenu

(in hostille takeover bid of all commercial interests in planet xenu jeytown last launched a shareholder revolt against tom cruise inc and all afilliated interests and onsold all the xenu stock to jeytown industries, when asked what jeytown industries plan to do to xenu, lord kronos the great replied that there are potential commercial developments scheduled for the xenu buiness district that foster long term growth perhaps there could be another planet reebok here -reuters afp)

that carerra typifies soap boxing in all its purist forms

a box put together by rusty nails, old driftwood, poisonous paint, and square bad fitting shoes

and that all soapboxing done by him will be treated by me as unfounded, biased and racist in its entirity, he represents the percentage of this world population that believes it is everybody elses problem that they dont understand him

he is so arrogant and ignorant that to even admit that he has major psychological problems would be something that would be out of his realm of possibilities.

guilty as charged

darkboong

LOL ! Well put.

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darkboong

Regarding an application called Megaphone (that was released just one week after Israel commenced it's war on Lebanon) :

"The program alerts users to opinion polls and "talkback" features on news sites so they can respond with pro-Israel views."

The article from The Register website continues :

"One Megaphone alert dispatched in August said: "Ask the UN to re-examine its position on the Qana incident. Remind the UN that Reuters admitted some of the Qana photos are faked, and that Hezbollah manipulates and uses innocent Lebanese civilians as human shields."

I suspect that the accusations of forgery with respect to Qana stem from that very same message. The message is factually incorrect, Reuters never did make any kind of admission with respect to photos taken by that particular photographer at Qana. That's not a surprise though, facts never get in the way of a good story with the Zionist lobby.

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Carrera

"he is so arrogant and ignorant that to even admit that he has major psychological problems would be something that would be out of his realm of possibilities."

That could be a complement. The more I read about the background to cyclists, very many are neurotic or, in other cases, arrogant.
I sometimes wonder why Lance Armstrong seems to always have problems in personal relationships either with his girlfriends or team-mates. Many cyclists called him arrogant, especially Simeoni.
As for "psychological problems", Pantani was known to have had serious depression but not just himself. Dozens of the top climbers were flawed and a bit neurotic.

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