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Old 25-08.-2006, 02:42 AM   #106
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Old 25-08.-2006, 03:56 AM   #107
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So...why does the US Coast Guard fire on them and send them back? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...in1375939.shtml
Cuban Migrants Hopeful They'll Be Back - CBS News
You (deleted for use of abusive language) no where in that article does it say anything about the US Coast Guard firing on immigrants.
Since you are an expert on the USCG and internet searches find one article where the US Coast Guard fired on unarmed immigrants.
The USCG can only fire on vessels that will not stop and are suspected of drug smuggling and even then they need a "statement of no objection" from the vessels flagged country. If it is a stateless vessel they then need approval from the Commandant. If they do get the approval the USCG then fires warning shots across the bow and if that doesnt work then they fire disabling shots into the engine/motor.
If you really want to actually know what you are talking about then do a search on the "6 levels of force continuum" and the "deadly force triangle". You just might learn something about the USCG and Law Enforcement.

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Old 25-08.-2006, 04:16 AM   #108
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Educating the stupid one douchebag at at time.
Last time I checked those Cuban immigrants did not fit the description below. Of course there is always one bad apple in every bunch.

The deadly force triangle is a decision model designed to enhance an officer's ability to respond to a deadly force encounter while remaining within legal and policy parameters.(2) The three sides of an equilateral triangle represent three factors - ability, opportunity, and jeopardy. All three factors must be present to justify deadly force. Pay attention to that last sentence it is crucial.

In this model, ability means the suspect's physical capacity to harm an officer or another innocent person. This is widely interpreted as a suspect's being armed with a weapon capable of inflicting death or serious injury, such as a firearm, knife, or club. Ability also includes personal physical capability, such as that possessed by a martial arts practitioner, a powerfully built man, or an agitated suspect on drugs.

Opportunity describes the suspects' potential to use their ability to kill or seriously injure. An unarmed but very large and powerfully built suspect might have the ability to injure seriously or kill a smaller, less well-conditioned officer. However, opportunity does not exist if the suspect is 50 yards away. Similarly, a suspect armed with a knife has the ability to kill or seriously injure an officer but might lack opportunity if the officer has taken cover.

Jeopardy exists when suspects take advantage of their ability and opportunity to place an officer or another innocent person in imminent physical danger. For example, a situation in which an armed robbery suspect refuses to drop a weapon when cornered after a foot pursuit would constitute jeopardy.
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Old 25-08.-2006, 04:21 AM   #109
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A regular source of useless information, Bleutrain.

However, I would ask you not to populate your posts with foul and abusive language.
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Old 25-08.-2006, 04:26 AM   #110
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A regular source of useless information, Bleutrain.

However, I would ask you not to populate your posts with foul and abusive language.
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Ahhh the Liminator strikes again, biased of course, am I allowed to call someone a "dickbrain" and it not get edited?
I am sorry I havent ventured over here earlier. I have done some reading on these threads and your true colors have shown through.

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Old 25-08.-2006, 05:03 AM   #111
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Ahhh the Liminator strikes again, biased of course, am I allowed to call someone a "dickbrain" and it not get edited?
I am sorry I havent ventured over here earlier. I have done some reading on these threads and your true colors have shown through.


Actually, you used very abusive language in your direct reply to Stevebaby above.
That sort of abusive language may be common place where you're located - but it's not going to be used here.
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Old 25-08.-2006, 05:14 AM   #112
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Actually, you used very abusive language in your direct reply to Stevebaby above.
That sort of abusive language may be common place where you're located - but it's not going to be used here.
So calling someone a "dickbrain" is not abusive? Oh I get it, if its your mate its not. Biased as usual. You created this mess not me.
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Old 25-08.-2006, 05:19 AM   #113
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So calling someone a "dickbrain" is not abusive? Oh I get it, if its your mate its not. Biased as usual.


Each poster is responsible for the content of his/her posts.

Now, can you show me where someone addressed YOU as dickbrain?
If you can supply me with the thread and the message of number of same therein where another poster addressed YOU as dickbrain?

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Old 25-08.-2006, 06:06 AM   #114
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Wurm calls people assholes all the time...please tell him to stop.

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Each poster is responsible for the content of his/her posts.

Now, can you show me where someone addressed YOU as dickbrain?
If you can supply me with the thread and the message of number of same therein where another poster addressed YOU as dickbrain?

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Old 25-08.-2006, 06:09 AM   #115
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Wurm calls people assholes all the time...please tell him to stop.

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I suggest that you concentrate on the content of your own posts, first and foremost.
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Old 25-08.-2006, 06:09 AM   #116
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You (deleted for use of abusive language) no where in that article does it say anything about the US Coast Guard firing on immigrants.
Since you are an expert on the USCG and internet searches find one article where the US Coast Guard fired on unarmed immigrants.
The USCG can only fire on vessels that will not stop and are suspected of drug smuggling and even then they need a "statement of no objection" from the vessels flagged country. If it is a stateless vessel they then need approval from the Commandant. If they do get the approval the USCG then fires warning shots across the bow and if that doesnt work then they fire disabling shots into the engine/motor.
If you really want to actually know what you are talking about then do a search on the "6 levels of force continuum" and the "deadly force triangle". You just might learn something about the USCG and Law Enforcement.

http://www.lawfuel.com/show-release.asp?ID=7249
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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...2fCoast%20Guard
National News Briefs; Refugees Return to Cuba After a Violent Standoff - New York Times
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/ameri...boat/index.html
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Ahhh the Liminator strikes again, biased of course, am I allowed to call someone a "dickbrain" and it not get edited?
I am sorry I havent ventured over here earlier. I have done some reading on these threads and your true colors have shown through.
I could have warned you, blue. Stevebaby knows what that article did and didn't say. He is just being a good communist shill that twists or fabricates "facts" from links that he knows 99% of the people reading will never check. I was going to call him on that one too (about the Coast Guard firing on them) but I had so much to debunk at one time! Then Lim has to come in with the distractions - you are using foul and abusive language, on the soap box for crying out loud. I am the great and terrible Wizard of Oz, don't look at the man behind the curtain!

BTW, Lim's true colors are red.
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Then Lim has to come in with the distractions - you are using foul and abusive language, on the soap box for crying out loud. I am the great and terrible Wizard of Oz, don't look at the man behind the curtain!

BTW, Lim's true colors are red.


My colours are of no consequence.

And as regards distractions - Bleutrain knows the rules and so do you, now.
Please don't distract Bleutrain, he's off running an errand for me at the moment.
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LOL, Each poster is responsible for his or her own content huhhh???? I never said anyone called me a "dickbrain". Once again your bias has been proven. You cant pick and chose who you want to moderate you look like a fool when you do.
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Each poster is responsible for the content of his/her posts.

Now, can you show me where someone addressed YOU as dickbrain?
If you can supply me with the thread and the message of number of same therein where another poster addressed YOU as dickbrain?

Many thanks.

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Dickbrain with your smiley faces and all what say you get your facts right for superior knowledge LOL ! ... No he is Dutch and not from !
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Now you fucking, lying cunt, : you published disinformation.
You got your facts wrong, you clown.
THE LINK SHOWS YOU'RE A LIAR, GRANER.
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You're a liar.
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A regular source of useless information, Bleutrain.

However, I would ask you not to populate your posts with foul and abusive language.
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Lim,personally I don't care if people use foul and abusive language towards me.It merely exposes their mentality and confirms their stupidity.They are rarely very inventive and I've heard it all before anyway.The more the merrier...it amuses me more than anything.
However,other people who may be offended read these posts and there are rules about posting.If anyone doesn't like those rules and doesn't accept that their posts are subject to moderation...feel free to post on another forum.
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