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22-09.-2006, 09:30 PM
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Frame with rack lugs
Hi I am thinking of building a commute bike that will take 700C wheels.
The frame has to have rear rack lugs. I intend to use roadie parts for it. Any suggestions? Thanks |
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22-09.-2006, 10:43 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
Giant CRX 3/4
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23-09.-2006, 10:16 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
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what about the OCRs?
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Rob www.bikenorth.org.au '07 Giant OCR Composite 3 - R550s with Michi Prorace2 '06 Giant CRX1 '96 Apollo Himalaya commuter - Rigid Fork, slicks, fully racked DMR Switchback Reynolds 520- Velocity Cliffhangers, SRAM X-9, Easton bar/stem DMR Trailstar 2 4130- Mavic117, Dice Whiplash, SCUD DH bars, LX 9spd, DMR Crisis Cranks. '04 Giant VT3 frame - SOLD |
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23-09.-2006, 10:48 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
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24-09.-2006, 10:33 AM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
Why not the CRX 1 and 2s?
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24-09.-2006, 11:03 AM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
Again, No lugs and no tyre clearance, carbon forks. http://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/03...007&model=10084 The 2 & 1 are more a sport commuter bike than a touring frame.
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24-09.-2006, 11:38 AM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
I was wondering if the CRX 3/4 can take greater than the standard 28" tyres (eg 32 "?) and in the event still use the same wheels and rims?
The greater than 28" may be more suited to touring... Quote:
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24-09.-2006, 12:12 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
That's what it says in the specs: http://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/03...007&model=10083
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24-09.-2006, 03:55 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
Guys thanks for the posts.
What is the difference between a bike like Apollo Swift (which I have), and a touring bike? I am planning in the near future to go on 100+km rides with my wife ,who is about to take up cycling  . She is leaning towards the CRX4 for a commute bike. Will both bikes stand up to some light touring? Say 60km a day with abt 10-15kg in the pannier bags? |
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24-09.-2006, 06:05 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
Thomas, if the bikes had the same geometry I would choose the CRX4W, however the Apollo geometry may suit her better.
Apollo released a new 24 speed Womens Flat Bar Road Touring/Commuter last month in Perth, I have the Brochure here, its callled the Veloce. Drop in for a coffee and I'll let you read my book. Edit: Apollo link: http://www.apollobikes.com/apollopr.../apolloproducts Road, Flat Bar: Swift, Allegro, Fiamme. The Veloce and Allegro have the same running gear.
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24-09.-2006, 06:51 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
I use a CRX 4 as a communting bike and it's good. The beauty of it is that it can be adapted to an even better touring bike by adding wider tyres than the standard 28"; which may be a good idea if you touring long distances and with heavy loads on your paniers. All you have to do is change the tyre sizes.
Your wife may want to consider the CRX 3 as a better investment particularly if you are going longer distances as it has some better quality components. Eg the 06 CRX 3 had better wheels and a crank set for $150 more. Don't know the diff between an Appollo Swift and other bikes. Does the Appollo have flat bar (more comforatable than the road bikes), does it have holes where you can put panniers in the rear fork? The other benefit of a CRX 3/4 is that it has a 3 gear crank (compared to 2 in others) which helps when you are in hillier areas as the gears are lower. The benefit of this is if you are touring in hillier areas only. Does your Appola have a 3 gear crank? Quote:
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24-09.-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
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G'day mate, all bikes except the most (crappy, shitty, junk), will do the milage you speak of. And all with more weight. try to look for fit, ease of ride and handling. Have you thought of a trailer. A BOB is excelent as it has only 1 wheel and holds all you would need for any tour. Fit a BOB squer to both bikes and take turns towing. once moving you will hardly feel the trailer. this is from some one that uses both panniers front and rear and a BOB. Not always together. You want to ask me anything else email tmprowse@bigpond.com.au regards terry |
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24-09.-2006, 09:07 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
Thanks guys for the tips.
We were at the bike shop today, and looked at the Giant CRX. Salesman tried to fit my wife to a XXS frame(38). She is 5'3 and she hopped on a XS (46.5) and to me it fit her well. She was not stretched at all, relatively upright position. I checked the equivalent frame geometries between the womens CRX and mens, and there is no difference. Yet the salesman said that the women's version had a shorter wheelbase, which would make it easier to control. Is it true that a shorter wheelbase gives you more control? I thot that a longer wheelbase would give more comfort. We went for a short ride on Saturday, she rode my 19" apollo without any problems, and just had the usual saddle sore of a first time rider. What gives with the bike sizing? |
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24-09.-2006, 09:17 PM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
Thomas ,
the ideal CRX (FCR) for her is the 42cm. However it was only imported to Aus for one shipment in the 2004/5 season.  See the USA FCR page.The 46cm with the seat forward and stem up a bit (not shorter) may be OK. Check (e_mail Apollo) the Womens Geometry of the Apollo Veloce, the 16" may be just the thing.
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25-09.-2006, 07:14 AM
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Re: Frame with rack lugs
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this salesman??????? for want of a better word is wrong. not only that but it is just about impossible to go into any bicycle shop and ask for a size and finding that it will fit. nearly all frame manafactures use a different size scale. What i suggest you do is this ,1/ step over the frame and make sure that you dont do yourself an injury.2 have someone hold bike upright, then sit on seat and peddle backwards with the balls of your feet,( in your cycling shoes) adjust seat height till all fits/3 make sure that with the point of your elbow placed at the front of seat, your fingers when straight just touch the back of the handle bars. this is basic fit. any of this wrong ,the bike is wrong for you. wheel base is long=slow handling, short (track bikes) is fast and skittish. you need somewhere between for touring:- go for long. you can see this by standing beside the bike and looking at how close the wheels are to the frame. the back wheel to seat tube, big gap the better for what you want. the same for the front wheel to down tube, bigger gap better. then to fine tune you need to look at crank length.another story, let me just say that any good bike brand will build bikes especially for women, though most women will fit on a so called male bike. try different bike shops and ride a few different bikes from a few builders if you can and one will feel right for you. buy that one. forget colour when looking, ask for the colour you want when you decide on bike. also think of the quality of parts. if you intend to do a lot of touring spend the $$and get very good bits, you will be pleased you did. Regasds Terry |
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