Page 2 - Getting up to speed

30-10.-2006, 10:18 PM

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sogood

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Re: Getting up to speed

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Originally Posted by mikesbytes

That was it, I was stuffed. After a decent break, did some lead outs with 2 other guys and got well and truely trumped.

You do realise that you are depressing me with these...

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14-11.-2006, 06:15 PM	#17
mikesbytes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ashfield, Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 1,705	Re: Getting up to speed Last weeks track training was aborted after warming up on the rollers, another rider pointed out that 2 of my chain ring bolts were missing. Windy at the track last night, not many riders. Jumped on the motopace for a while and then went and did 333mtr sprints. 27.06, 28.16, 27.15 a long way off my PB of 24.85. The 27.15 was probably the best run, as I had heavier wind. An A grade sprinter had a go and did 25.05, so my times were good in comparision. Did a couple of sprints off the banks by myself and then a 3 riders asked me to join for a leadout. 1st lead out I went last wheel, 3rd wheel pulled back from the 2 in front and then hammered it when he went, catching me napping and dropping me, I finished about 30 metres behind. 2nd lead out with one less rider, I went first, having warned them that I wasn't as fast as them, I went thru at the top of the bank a little faster, to allow a little more cadience on my 92" gearing and then hammered straight down the banking, they were still behind me when I got to the corner, which was good, as they would now have to go around me on the banking, but my C grade legs wern't quick enough to hold off A grade legs and they went around me on about half way around the corner, beating me to the line by about 10 metres. __________________ Training Log

01-01.-2007, 06:43 AM

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VeloFlash

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Re: Getting up to speed

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Originally Posted by 6002

If your P.B. 200m time is 12.2 you will never ride 500m in 30 sec.

And the previous poster is right, if mikebytes is doing 18.3 on a bad day, where has he been hidding?

If you read his first post he is hitting the draft of the motor bike and the draftees - big difference, plenty of disturbed air.

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11-01.-2007, 11:49 AM

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The Dubliner

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Re: Getting up to speed

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Originally Posted by VeloFlash

If you read his first post he is hitting the draft of the motor bike and the draftees - big difference, plenty of disturbed air.

If he's riding Tempe, and it sounds likely, he would be benefitting from the draft. He'd also have the advantage of starting off the top fence on a banked track.

12-01.-2007, 08:36 PM	#20
mikesbytes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ashfield, Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 1,705	Re: Getting up to speed The start point is at the end of the corner, so the benifit of the banking isn't that much and is probably neturalised by the extra distance travelled, which hasn't been counted. Anyway, the purpose of this thread was to discuss how to accellerate quicker from a standing start. __________________ Training Log

16-01.-2007, 12:11 PM

#21

tomdavis80

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Re: Getting up to speed

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Originally Posted by mikesbytes

I tried a higher gear on my track bike last night, switching from 48/15 to 48/14. A dozen or so laps showed that the gear felt good, so I decided to try some 250mtr standing sprints. What they do, is hold you and as the motor pace goes past, the let you go (they only let you go if the track is clear as you sprint out blind) and you sprint around the outsiide of the motobike and the bikes following. My PB is 17.5 seconds. The first attempt my left calf cramped and I did 18.6 seconds. My Second attempt, I spun the back wheel over a bump and I did 18.3 seconds and then the rain came, so that was the end of that - track closed.

Not really enough data to make a assessment on, but my gut feeling is that I wasn't getting up to speed quickly enough.

I should also note that I do weight lifting before work, approx 13 hours before these sprints, so there is a variation in my performance, based on how stuffed I am on the particular night.

Anyway, what I thinking is that, for whatever reason, I'm accelerating quick enough over the first 50 metres, I need to learn how to get the wheels turning quick enough on a fixed gear.

Bigger gear=slower acceleration. Simple as that. Smaller gear=faster acceleration. Of course your times are going to be slower in a bigger gear from a standing start for a 200 meter sprint because the first 5 seconds are what makes or breaks your time. Same with a kilo, first lap can make or break you.

16-01.-2007, 01:41 PM	#22
mikesbytes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ashfield, Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 1,705	Re: Getting up to speed I think the problem could be that I'm not pulling hard enough on the pedal, relying too much on pushing. __________________ Training Log

16-01.-2007, 01:57 PM

#23

tomdavis80

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Re: Getting up to speed

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Originally Posted by mikesbytes

I think the problem could be that I'm not pulling hard enough on the pedal, relying too much on pushing.

Now that is called SNAP.

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