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Falsifier in Chief: "We’ve never been stay the course"

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Old 25-10.-2006, 12:07 PM   #31
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You have a good point but if we are talking about policies/issues lets take a look at Clintons 8 years as "Falsifier in Chief".

February 26, 1993 A bomb explodes in the basement of the World Trade Center in New York, killing 6 and wounding more than a thousand.
President: Clinton
Response: Never went to NY to visit the sight. Later 2 suspects where tried and arrested for the attack.

March 8, 1995 Two U.S. diplomats are killed in Karachi, Pakistan.
President: Clinton
Response: Nothing

June 25, 1996 A fuel truck explodes outside the United States military's Khobar Towers building, killing 19 military personnel and wounding 515.
President: Clinton
Response: Nothing

November 12, 1997 Four U.S. businessmen are killed in Karachi, Pakistan by members of the Islamic Revolutionary Council.
President: Clinton
Response: Nothing

August 7, 1998 In near simultaneous explosions at U.S. Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, Al Qaeda terrorists kill 291 and wound 5,000 in Kenya and kill 10 and wound 77 in Tanzania
President: Clinton
Response: Clinton lobbed a few Cruise Missles at UBL's training camps in Afghanistan.

October 12, 2000 The U.S.S. Cole, a destroyer in the United States Navy, is rammed by a boat full of explosives in the harbor of Aden, Yemen. 17 sailors are killed and 39 more are injured. Al Qaeda is suspected.
President: Clinton
Response: Nothing

NO WONDER WHY HE DIDNT SCREW ANY OF THESE UP ... HE NEVER TRIED!
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OK. you addressed the use of force, no Thats one issue. Do you contend that the FBI & the CIA were sitting on their hands during this time-frame Lets look at other policies instituted for (or rather, "perpetrated on") the American people by his majesty & his complicit Congress. Energy policy (Paramount)[his was written by a secret task force e.g.-lobbyist's & industry officials ], tax policy-more people w/o health insurance or even homes for that matter, dominance in his admin of non-issues to placate his base-e.g. flag burning (before you launch into a tirade, I'm a vet') & prayer in schools, barging into personal family affairs (Schiavo), ect...It goes on & on. These guys-the exec & the repub controlled house have done everything for themselves-pay raises, pork-barrel (deficit) spending & next to nothing for the vast majority of the American citizenry. I only hope the reds don't reelect these profiteers. Please tell me you are not one of their "sheep" who mindlessly swallow the "Declassifier-in-Cheif's" rhetoric.
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So how many of those missions has dubya accomplished? That's assuming he has any idea what those missions were in the first place.
BTW,what were they again?
Mission #1: control Iraqi oil, cuz there ain't much oil left anywhere.

Check.

Mission #2: build lots of bases, in case we need 'em later. And we will.

Check.

Mission #3: get rich. Even filthier than filthy.

Check.
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The only thing ChimpCo has "been about" vis-a-vis Iraq since March 2003 is staying there indefinitely. They've used every lie in the book to justify why they invaded. They wanted control over the oil, billions/trillions of dollars drained from US taxpayers, and a military staging area in the middle of the Mid East.

There is no other way to slice n' dice it. GWB owns "stay the course". He's made damned sure he's drilled that into everyone's head, until now when he's being forced by his own side to face reality.

Like the spoiled frat-boy that he is, Preznit Shit For Brains will now receive his Merkel-esque shoulder massage from James Baker to make everything OK.

Yep'. $380,000,000,000 of money, by the way, that we currently don't possess. Don't worry, they got it figured out-our grand-kids will pay for it. They won't mind-right All the while, his contractor buddies are taking baths in bathtubs filled w/ $100 bills. That one reason prominent, "true" conservatives are abandoning him He spends taxpayers money (the middle-class) like a drunken sailor.
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Which one is Osama bin Laden?
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Old 25-10.-2006, 02:50 PM   #35
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Sung to the tune of "Mr,Ed",the talking horse.

"The course is the course,of course,of course.
Until it is never the course,of course..
And if,of course we stay the course,
It's never been "stay the course...!"

Of course.
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...man, y'all are way too harsh on bluetrain. can't you see this guy is like the other republicans who say "when the going gets tough, blame clinton." and stevebaby, if you're looking for osama, look no further than the latest r.n.c. commercial which is using him to stir up the fear in americans... which might not be the case if lil w. had "stayed that course" in afghanistan!
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Sung to the tune of "Mr,Ed",the talking horse.

"The course is the course,of course,of course.
Until it is never the course,of course..
And if,of course we stay the course,
It's never been "stay the course...!"

Of course.

BWAAAAA-HAHAHA!

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Which one is Osama bin Laden?

Here...maybe we can find him in this stack of cards...


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Why include Schwarzennegger? He's a liberal Republican with a strong stance against pollution and global warming? He opposed the Iraq War and spoke out for Moslems as well, no?


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Interesting how you ignored the other 15 perps and thought you could instead deflect to something that you assume is not true.

AS had conflict of interest issues when he ran for governor (supporting Ken Lay in California's Enron debacle), he is an admitted admirer of Hitler, as well as being known as a sexual assaulter (groping women, etc.). You should see what he's done to CA as a "liberal" Republican.

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The truth hurts, eh? The difference between Republicans and Democrats is this:
Republican: Panders to the conservative base during elections.

Democrat: Panders to the conservative issues with Republicans during elections.

Thats why the Dems havent won a thing in six years and it hasnt been any different so far this election period. I just call it like I see it.


yep, the truth does hurt. unless, of course, like a republican, the truth is the last thing to concern you when you are focused only on keeping your party in power...

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News Item: National Republican Congressional Committee sends operatives to look through tax, court and other records of Democratic candidates with an eye toward more than $40 million in TV ads to "define" opponents.
News Item: Republican operatives find that an upstate New York Democratic congressional candidate had placed a call to a sex line and billed the taxpayers.

News Item: TV ad appears showing images of the Democrat next to the silhouette of a dancing woman, who says, "Hi, sexy. You've reached the live, one-on-one fantasy line."

News Item: Democrat releases phone records showing he had dialed a number, reached a sex line, hung up immediately and then dialed the number of the New York Department of Criminal Justice Services, which has the same seven last digits as the sex line --in other words, a clear case of a misdialed number.

News Item: N National Republican Congressional Committee stands by TV ad, saying it is "totally true" that the Democrat had dialed the number of a sex line.

The TV ad is still running.

The system works.
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the BBC made a big report on this issue on Tues night..

they quoted Bush on video speeches making about 10 differnet statements that they will 'stay the course' ...that thier prime objectives will only be completed if America 'stay the course'

'stay the course' is propaganda, pure and simple...

its is a statement that is manufactured to help get the support of the american public..

'stay the course' means, 'do you want those bad guys to win?'

"HELL NO" comes the booming voice...and Bush sniggers in glee. 'well send us your children, dead soldiers dont grow in trees ya know'

now the message has changed. The big pull out is clearly in sight. So 'stay the course' never existed...

do they think we are as stupid as they are?...obviously the answer is yes..
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I never met Arnold S personally but I do know one or two people who trained with him back in the old days. I can tell you for sure Arnold S doesn't admire and never has admired Hitler.
The idea Arnold admired Hitler was taken out of context from something he said in Pumping Iron to the effect he always "admired" people who were leaders such as Jesus or Napoleon e.t.c. The fact Gustav Schwarzennegger (his father) was in fact a supporter of the Nazi Party is neither here nor there as Arnie didn't go to Gustav's funeral seeing as they were never particularly close.
As for the passes towards women, I think this was more a case of trying it on. Loads of guys (including Bill Clinton) have been guilty of that. There are one or two people who bear witness to Bill having hookers dress up as cheerleaders and various scandals of that nature. Plus, Bill Clinton doesn't have the excuse he took steroids at the time.
For the record, Schwarzennegger opposed the Iraq War from the onset and has spoken out in favour of gays and moslems or other minority groups.


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Interesting how you ignored the other 15 perps and thought you could instead deflect to something that you assume is not true.

AS had conflict of interest issues when he ran for governor (supporting Ken Lay in California's Enron debacle), he is an admitted admirer of Hitler, as well as being known as a sexual assaulter (groping women, etc.). You should see what he's done to CA as a "liberal" Republican.

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That's it in a nutshell, MP.

I highly doubt the US will get out any time soon in reality, judging from what Der Fuhrer has said recently. His most recent mumblings are intended to assuage the masses for the elections, that's all. If the Repigs' poll #'s weren't so far in the toilet, he'd be playing the old saw that the Dems are soft on Terra while keeping up the lie that "we're making progress in Eye-Rack"...

Especially if the Repigs maintain the Congress - which is very possible with the help of Diebold, Sequoia Systems, and ES&S electronic "voting" - the US military isn't going anywhere. It'll stay in Iraq for at least another year before ChimpCo blames the Iraqi "gov't" for not meeting certain "benchmarks" that the US will undoubtedly have set as conditions for withdrawal.

That will be the excuse to try to save face: "You guys effed up, so we're outta here."
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The facts on Arnold S. are the facts, Carrera, nothwithstanding your habit to minimize/downplay anything that is at all bad about right-wingers. You can spin them any way you like though. Geez, do I have to pull out and post the quotes, which are definitely in context? Now you see why I cut & paste so often.

They hung out with Kurt Waldheim for Chrissakes. So to get elected and re-elected, Arnold S. is no different than his cohorts: he'll say and do anything. Merely because he throws a few bones to the other side - which is neccesary in CA - doesn't mean he's had a sea-change.
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