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American Warship threatens to open fire on unarmed civilian ship....in SCOTLAND!

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Old 26-10.-2006, 03:52 PM   #46
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Hi bottle cage...yes, i can see why you came to that conclusion but these ships are gathered on the River Clyde which flows from the city of Glasgow into the Altantic ocean. My office overlooks it and it is a busy commercial/industrial shipping lane.

The actual exercise will take place 300 miles away in a restricted designated military training ground off the Scottish Hebrides. The ships were gathered in the Clyde becuase there is a naval base there.

Having the exercie in the Clyde is analagous to training army troops in a busy down-town shopping mall using the general public and live ammo.


I see I had no idea that it is as heavily populated area as you say.

What the hell was he thinking then???

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Old 26-10.-2006, 05:02 PM   #47
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The British government does what we tell em....remember. Don't worry...Scotland has no oil so we won't be sending in the Marines anytime soon.
you are a total idiot....youve just proved it.

Scotland is the richest oil nation in Europe. Indeed, Aberdeen is known as the Oil Capital of Europe.

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"Scottish waters consist of a large sector[4] of the North Atlantic and the North Sea, containing the largest oil reserves in the European Union."

Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland

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Old 26-10.-2006, 05:08 PM   #48
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I see I had no idea that it is as heavily populated area as you say.

What the hell was he thinking then???
he is from the BillM school of diplomacy...."i know f*ck all and i'm proud of it...now get out of my way or i'll steal your oil..."

basically he's an idiot....as is the commander.
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Old 27-10.-2006, 06:42 AM   #50
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you are a total idiot....youve just proved it.

Scotland is the richest oil nation in Europe. Indeed, Aberdeen is known as the Oil Capital of Europe.


Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland

what an idiot...
I didn't know...sue me. It's Scotland for christs sake....UK oil production amounts to roughly 3 million barrels per day depending on the wind.....hardly an oil capital...or if it is then no wonder Europe cowers to the Muslims. When we're ready for your oil we'll come get it.

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he is from the BillM school of diplomacy...."i know f*ck all and i'm proud of it...now get out of my way or i'll steal your oil..."

basically he's an idiot....as is the commander.


I told you ....we won't steal your oil....you'll give it to us because we told you to.

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you are a total idiot....youve just proved it.

Scotland is the richest oil nation in Europe. Indeed, Aberdeen is known as the Oil Capital of Europe.


Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland

what an idiot...


Spot on MP.




But in respect of the other questions as to who has the bigger oil reserves - I thought Norway was ahead of Scotland (Britain) ?
(I could be wrong)
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For all our "Captains" on the forum.

The Rules of the Road
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Narrow Channels


(a) A vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway shall keep as near to the outer limit of the channel or fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable.


(b) A vessel of less than 20 meters in length or a sailing vessel shall not impede the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway.

(c) A vessel engaged in fishing shall not impede the passage of any other vessel navigating within a narrow passage or fairway.

(d) A vessel pay attention now this part is important shall not cross a narrow passage or fairway if such crossing impedes the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within such channel or fairway. The latter vessel may use the sound signal prescribed in Rule 34(d) if in doubt as to the intention of the crossing vessel.


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Spot on MP.




But in respect of the other questions as to who has the bigger oil reserves - I thought Norway was ahead of Scotland (Britain) ?
(I could be wrong)

Norway pumps out between 2 and 2.5 million barrels per day....UK is roughly 3 million.

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I told you ....we won't steal your oil....you'll give it to us because we told you to.

Yes,lets invade the kingdom that produced the philosophers that came up w/ the idea's our society was based upon Come on BillM. I beleive its referred to as "grasping at straws" Concede whilst you are behind before you dig yourself in deeper
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Yes,lets invade the kingdom that produced the philosophers that came up w/ the idea's our society was based upon Come on BillM. I beleive its referred to as "grasping at straws" Concede whilst you are behind before you dig yourself in deeper

Concede what? Britain does what we tell them to do...can anyone argue that they don't with a straight face?

I wouldn't ever for a second think to invade them.....first we wouldn't have to...and second England has always been a loyal ally...it's just too bad it's full of morons like the ones on this board.
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For all our "Captains" on the forum.

The Rules of the Road
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(a) A vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway shall keep as near to the outer limit of the channel or fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable.


(b) A vessel of less than 20 meters in length or a sailing vessel shall not impede the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway.

(c) A vessel engaged in fishing shall not impede the passage of any other vessel navigating within a narrow passage or fairway.

(d) A vessel pay attention now this part is important shall not cross a narrow passage or fairway if such crossing impedes the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within such channel or fairway. The latter vessel may use the sound signal prescribed in Rule 34(d) if in doubt as to the intention of the crossing vessel.



Back to the text,bill!
Very obviously...you have never seen the Clyde.The USS Enterprise could do a 360 in the centre of the channel.
As there was no risk of collision,the ferry was not required to either identify itself or alter its course.
While you are googling the Collision Regs. you should look at the definition of "innocent passage".
Of course,if you want to dispute my professional opinion,please,please do.
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Back to the text,bill!
Very obviously...you have never seen the Clyde.The USS Enterprise could do a 360 in the centre of the channel.
As there was no risk of collision,the ferry was not required to either identify itself or alter its course.
While you are googling the Collision Regs. you should look at the definition of "innocent passage".
Of course,if you want to dispute my professional opinion,please,please do.

Who are you talking to weirdo...I didn't post what you are replying to.
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Concede what? Britain does what we tell them to do...can anyone argue that they don't with a straight face?

I wouldn't ever for a second think to invade them.....first we wouldn't have to...and second England has always been a loyal ally...it's just too bad it's full of morons like the ones on this board.

They voluntarily joined our errr...coalition. They will undoubtedly give more thought to it in the future after this war of choice. You can be sure of that.
I was for the invasion but not in the minimalist way it was/is being carried out by this admin & it's secdef. Hussein was bad news but so is Kim Jong Il but he remains in power as do other despots/tyrants. We can't overthrow every gov't, especially w/o paying for it, as Bu$hCo has put the financial burden on the backs of future generations (unbeknownst to them) all the while not asking for any national sacrifice aside from encouraging travel & shopping
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They voluntarily joined our errr...coalition. They will undoubtedly give more thought to it in the future after this war of choice. You can be sure of that.
I was for the invasion but not in the minimalist way it was/is being carried out by this admin & it's secdef. Hussein was bad news but so is Kim Jong Il but he remains in power as do other despots/tyrants. We can't overthrow every gov't, especially w/o paying for it, as Bu$hCo has put the financial burden on the backs of future generations (unbeknownst to them) all the while not asking for any national sacrifice aside from encouraging travel & shopping

Well Bush has done such a fine job that I think most countries will think twice.....that does not change the fact that the UK will continue to do what we tell them until we tell them to.

It's an indisputable fact.
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