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Old 16-01.-2007, 06:10 AM   #1
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I was out on a ride yesterday with some friends. We climbed over 1300m on a piste/fire road and though it was tough, I loved it and I kept up with the group without too much problem. However, on the descent, I was left way behind, forcing my friends to wait for me to catch up every few minutes. The descent was on a fire-road, lots of hairpins, a lot of 6in-9in deep rain ditches gouged across the track and lots of exposed rocks. I find that I am always nervous on the descents and this makes me go slower, use the brakes a lot, and not enjoy it. Has anyone else been like this and overcome their fear. Any tips ??
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Do the route alone as much as possible. You will get more confident and won't feel pressured to perform.
Decents are something that can be practiced alone with results.
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Old 17-01.-2007, 04:26 PM   #3
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It has a lot to do with overcoming mentally the fear of crashing. Makes you keep on looking where you are and trying to avoid every rut and rock on the trail. In so doing, you fight the trail instead of flowing with it. Cannot have fun if you are worrying all the time.

Practice. Build a certain confidence on what you can do and what the bike can take. This will get you the confidence to look farther up the trail and not be concerned by every dips and bumps.
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Old 17-01.-2007, 05:20 PM   #4
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I was out on a ride yesterday with some friends. We climbed over 1300m on a piste/fire road and though it was tough, I loved it and I kept up with the group without too much problem. However, on the descent, I was left way behind, forcing my friends to wait for me to catch up every few minutes. The descent was on a fire-road, lots of hairpins, a lot of 6in-9in deep rain ditches gouged across the track and lots of exposed rocks. I find that I am always nervous on the descents and this makes me go slower, use the brakes a lot, and not enjoy it. Has anyone else been like this and overcome their fear. Any tips ??

At least you weren't like this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAjaGL-hkGE

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Old 19-01.-2007, 08:48 AM   #5
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It has a lot to do with overcoming mentally the fear of crashing. Makes you keep on looking where you are and trying to avoid every rut and rock on the trail. In so doing, you fight the trail instead of flowing with it. Cannot have fun if you are worrying all the time.

Practice. Build a certain confidence on what you can do and what the bike can take. This will get you the confidence to look farther up the trail and not be concerned by every dips and bumps.
Yes, thanks. Also, I think one skill I need to develop is to jump the bike over hazards. A lot of the stuff that makes me slow down is not big, and could be jumped. I think I need to practice that.
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Old 20-01.-2007, 03:11 AM   #6
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Yes, thanks. Also, I think one skill I need to develop is to jump the bike over hazards. A lot of the stuff that makes me slow down is not big, and could be jumped. I think I need to practice that.
Try and stay off the brakes on the rocky stuff, ride fast and light over it and you'll feel it less than if you brake to slow down as you go over it. Unless of course these are huge rocks, then brake, or better still avoid! Confidence comes through practice. Go and ride these descents on your own when you don't feel the pressure of keeping up with others.
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Old 20-01.-2007, 04:25 AM   #7
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Yes, thanks. Also, I think one skill I need to develop is to jump the bike over hazards. A lot of the stuff that makes me slow down is not big, and could be jumped. I think I need to practice that.
try this simple trick ...
just as you approach a small obstacle (whether a small log or a narrow deep rut) ... check your speed and head straight to the obstacle ... as soon as you are about to hit it ... kick down on the pedal and shift your weight backwards .. this will raise up the front wheel which should be just enough to get you on top of the hazard ... and then its simple enough for you to get over it.

when you get this down to pat ... then you can start working yr way to jumping over it ... again .. practice.
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Old 24-01.-2007, 06:08 PM   #8
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At least you weren't like this guy.

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However, on the descent, I was left way behind, forcing my friends to wait for me to catch up every few minutes.
Dont worry about them waiting I am sure they don't mind, it's part of the fun of sharing a track with you. Don't feel pressured in keeping up at their level and speed (they have probably been on that track many times), they would want you to enjoy the ride but at your own pace and not hurt yourself. Just ask them to give you some pointers most guys and gals are happy to share their knowledge. You will become more confident with more riding of varying terrain.
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Old 14-03.-2007, 11:09 PM   #9
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All of us go through the white knuckled descent stage.

THEN YOU DEVELOP THE REGUIRED SKILLS AND GO FASTER AND FASTER.

Weight distribution, not locking your elbows and using both brakes become second nature.

So much so that you start checking out the birds in the trees as you pass as i have done, hit a run off ditch and amuse your cycling buddies with some tuck and roll acrobatics. Then for a while you go back to snail pace descents, but just for a while.
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Old 21-03.-2007, 09:18 AM   #11
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I am fairly new to mountain biking. I have no problem with keeping up and passing people going up the hill, but going down hill I find scary too.
The biggest thing I found that has helped recently is getting my body low. Instead of locking up and sitting upright and with your weight back, crouch down, put your weight on the pedals and have your arms loose. Let the bike move around under you and shift your body around to keep everything inline and pointed in the right direction.

One thing I didn't know was how to turn the bike properly too. Coming from road motorcycles, I always put my weight to the inside of the corner. But on the dirt with mountain bikes, I have found that pushing the bike underneath with your body weight centred feels much safer.

Don't know if that's right or if it helps but thought I'd share my beginner learnings.
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Old 09-10.-2007, 05:49 PM   #12
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We all understand what your feeling at some point in all our biking experience we felt the same way.

What I found out is, not to go over your skill level and start descending w/ an "out of control" feeling.You should be in control at all times. Use BOTH brakes to slow you speed. Start out slow and w/ the brakes half cocked start your descent. You will have to be aware not to lock out the brakes in a panic. You'll be surprised how much your suspension can take all the ruts and rocks on the trails. Keep a firm grip on the bars and keep it straight or headed towards where you want to go.

If the dips are bigger than expected, slightly lift of your seat and keep elbows loose to take the big dips your bike will do when going over the dips or ruts. your body core will be stable and give you more control. Good idea to lean back and sqeeze the saddle w/ your thighs so the weight distribution is still balanced between front and rear tires.

Try out these suggestions and gain confidence in your and your bikes abilites. Before you know it you'll be keeping up w/ the guys.

Another good suggestion if in case you do go over the bars its better to tuck your head down and land on your back and roll than to do a superman and break your hands or arms.

Happy trailing!
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Old 09-10.-2007, 05:55 PM   #13
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We all understand what your feeling at some point in all our biking experience we felt the same way.

What I found out is, not to go over your skill level and start descending w/ an "out of control" feeling.You should be in control at all times. Use BOTH brakes to slow your speed. Start out slow and w/ the brakes half cocked start your descent. You will have to be aware not to lock out the brakes in a panic. You'll be surprised how much your suspension can take all the ruts and rocks on the trails. Keep a firm grip on the bars and keep it straight or headed towards where you want to go.

If the dips are bigger than expected, slightly lift of your seat and keep elbows loose to take the big dips your bike will do when going over the dips or ruts. your body core will be stable and give you more control. Good idea to lean back and sqeeze the saddle w/ your thighs so the weight distribution is still balanced between front and rear tires.

Try out these suggestions and gain confidence in your and your bikes abilites. Before you know it you'll be keeping up w/ the guys.

Another good suggestion if in case you do go over the bars its better to tuck your head down and land on your back and roll than to do a superman and break your hands or arms.

Happy trailing!
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Wear full body armour, full face helmet and reinforced gloves.

Tell your mates to wait and 'watch this'.

Kick off, look where you want to go, not where you think you'll land if you fall,
and scream and shout at every obstacle, challenge each one to 'bring it on', tell the obstacle what you're going to do to them, every single one all the way down. If you find you're going too fast to keep your mouth up with the obstacles, slow a little.

Eventually, with lots of practice runs, you want to be shouting at not the next obstacle, but the ones much further ahead, as you've already set-up to do the next one, and the one after it, etc.
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Wear full body armour, full face helmet and reinforced gloves.

Tell your mates to wait and 'watch this'.

Kick off, look where you want to go, not where you think you'll land if you fall,
and scream and shout at every obstacle, challenge each one to 'bring it on', tell the obstacle what you're going to do to them, every single one all the way down. If you find you're going too fast to keep your mouth up with the obstacles, slow a little.

Eventually, with lots of practice runs, you want to be shouting at not the next obstacle, but the ones much further ahead, as you've already set-up to do the next one, and the one after it, etc.
thats pretty fun too. your friends will think youre crazy, but oh well
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