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Polar CS600 Power - First on the Block...

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Old 21-05.-2007, 04:08 AM   #76
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Hello,

I need your help on how I can set the chain weight and chain length off Dura Ace Chain 10 speed with out to take the chain off

It is 106 links.

My current settings is 278gr and 1346 for length...what do you think

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Old 21-05.-2007, 04:14 AM   #77
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Hello,

I need your help on how I can set the chain weight and chain length off Dura Ace Chain 10 speed with out to take the chain off

It is 106 links.

My current settings is 278gr and 1346 for length...what do you think

Thank you


I highly recommend taking the chain off and weighing the chain on a scale that reads out to a resolution of 1 gram and enter that number for the weight. Anything else is just guessing. If you're worried about not being able to reuse the pin, or not having the tool to press a new one in, just remove a full link and replace it with a master link. There are many options for that, plus it makes it much easier to take the chain on and off.

For your 106 link length, the calculation is 106 x 12.7mm = 1346 mm.
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Old 21-05.-2007, 04:29 AM   #78
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Thank you for your answers,

I go to tray that tomorrow …
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Old 21-05.-2007, 04:35 AM   #79
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Thank you for your answers,

I go to tray that tomorrow …



Tom is right 100%. Weight the chain. Likewise be sure to measure your drop out to BB length carefully.
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Old 22-05.-2007, 11:41 AM   #80
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Just a quick note, I had initially reported issues with getting the cadence sensor/magnet to work consistently, and while riding this weekend, I finally nailed down the actual problem. While riding, the cadence dropped out (and thus the power did not show, either), and it occurred the instant I hit a bump. I've been assuming all along that the issue was in the chain tension/cadence sensor or cadence magnet. After it dropped out that last time, I decided I wasn't getting off my bike and trying to futz with the placement of the cadence pickup yet again, so instead I 'flicked' the head unit (the cycle computer/display). It instantly turned right back on, and (finally) determined that the problem is a flaky computer, not the sensors.

New one is on the way, Performance is taking this one back as defective.
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Old 22-05.-2007, 01:45 PM   #81
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Default UPDATE: PROBLEM SOLVED... Changing Pace setting to MPH on CS600

A quick update to my previous posts regarding changing the pace to mph setting on the CS600. Polar was correct about the new software update solving the problem. A few days ago they released an update to ProTrainer (5.10.124). I loaded it and after doing my first transfer was pleased to see the problem solved. I did not see any specific area to make the change in the new version, but after the transfer the problem was corrected.



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I have the latest build and it does not solve the problem. Today I recieved the following message (in Finglish) from Polar in Finland. It looks like they know it is an issue and will be solved on the next build. I must have altered the standard setting somehow when I did the setup and now I am stuck with it until the next software rev! At least after three weeks and three threatening emails I recieved an answer.

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"Thank you for your email sent to the Polar Global Customer Support.

This issue wil be fixed in the next software update i.e. the speed can be seen in km/h > send Product page settings to set the CS600 back to km/h or mph.

Thank you for reporting this to us and I'm sorry about the
inconvenience this might have caused you.


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Old 23-05.-2007, 09:40 PM   #82
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Is WKO+ compatible w/ CS600? If not, is there sw update coming?
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Old 24-05.-2007, 12:29 AM   #83
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I have seen no problems using the CS600 with WKO+, I have been using them together for several weeks.
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Old 25-05.-2007, 06:14 PM   #84
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Just a quick note, I had initially reported issues with getting the cadence sensor/magnet to work consistently, and while riding this weekend, I finally nailed down the actual problem. While riding, the cadence dropped out (and thus the power did not show, either), and it occurred the instant I hit a bump. I've been assuming all along that the issue was in the chain tension/cadence sensor or cadence magnet
I've also reported some drop outs before. At first I thought it was from interference from power lines since that's where it happened the first couple of times. But the problem got worse. Some days it did pretty good, some days not. The drop outs could occur at any time but they were more likely to happen when hitting bumps and often it was really slow to pick up after coasting.

The longest drop out I've had was probably 5 minutes. But that was rare. But it was quite common that it would take up to 30 seconds to pick up after coasting.

I turned it in to Polar. Now it should be fixed. I haven't tried it yet though. The problem is known to Polar (at least HQ) . Apparently something in the surfboard may come loose and cause this. I think they added some padding inside the surfboard to fix it. While it would be nice to not have any problems at all, I'm still pretty pleased that I only had to part from my powermeter for one day.
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Old 26-05.-2007, 10:00 AM   #85
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I've also reported some drop outs before. At first I thought it was from interference from power lines since that's where it happened the first couple of times. But the problem got worse. Some days it did pretty good, some days not. The drop outs could occur at any time but they were more likely to happen when hitting bumps and often it was really slow to pick up after coasting.

The longest drop out I've had was probably 5 minutes. But that was rare. But it was quite common that it would take up to 30 seconds to pick up after coasting.

I turned it in to Polar. Now it should be fixed. I haven't tried it yet though. The problem is known to Polar (at least HQ) . Apparently something in the surfboard may come loose and cause this. I think they added some padding inside the surfboard to fix it. While it would be nice to not have any problems at all, I'm still pretty pleased that I only had to part from my powermeter for one day.


I'll be curious to see if it's actually fixed. I'm still having some issues getting my new one to work consistently, still tweaking with the install. For some reason it was very reliable on my Trek 5200, and it's proving difficult on my new S-Works Tarmac SL.
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Old 27-05.-2007, 11:44 PM   #86
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Default Re: UPDATE: PROBLEM SOLVED... Changing Pace setting to MPH on CS600

Just trying to sort this all out. I am looking at the CS600 to replace my 720 and now trashed power unit for it. I am a Mac user, so any software updates from Polar are useless to me. Is there or is there not a way to change the pace to speed issue from the CS600 unit it self with out having to use the Polar software on a PC?>
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Old 28-05.-2007, 04:23 AM   #87
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I'll be curious to see if it's actually fixed..
The answer is: probably. I did a 2 hour ride today without any weird dropouts. When riding next to the railway tracks I did not get any data. But Since this has happend from day one with the cs600, I guess that it is more sensitive to electro magnetic interference than the 7xx power module. So while I can't say for certain that Polar fixed my problem it's at least very likely. The last week I before handing it over to Polar I had vey frequent drop outs. I'll let you know if my problems come back.
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Old 30-05.-2007, 01:10 PM   #88
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FYI, I finally got a ride in on the replacement unit (which, BTW, had a very different serial number). It performed flawlessly, even though I was not sure about the setup at the time. For some reason, having it on the stand and pedaling the thing only intermittently made it work, but while riding it was fine. Not sure why this is (maybe no HR received makes it flaky?), but it could prove to make setup more difficult than it needs to be.

We'll see how it goes after a few longer rides.
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Old 01-06.-2007, 08:15 AM   #89
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Just a general question, how is the CS600 computer for speed and cadence using the WIND technology? Does it work well? any drop-outs? I'm not planning on using the power paddle.
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Just a general question, how is the CS600 computer for speed and cadence using the WIND technology? Does it work well? any drop-outs? I'm not planning on using the power paddle.


You mean, other than the cadence dropouts both 'jstock' and I reported above? Other than that, perfect.
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