Empty calories

Originally Posted by Ratiocinator

Do I indeed?

Lovely.

OK then. I will tell you how the junk food consumption of people can negatively impact my life, and the life of OTHERS.

Not that whether or not I am affected should really matter. Does a person not have a moral responsibility to inform others of harmful activities, as a warning to allow them the opportunity of protecting themselves? I think they do.

Let us start with ASPARTAME: This is a lethal substance that manufacturers add to foods to make them addictive. Aspartame is an addictive excitotoxin. It is in Diet Coke and added to ‘food’ in fast filth restaurants. Apart from causing almost every disease known to mankind, including CANCER, aspartame impedes the cerebral abilities of those foolish enough to consume this poison. When a persons mental abilities are broken down they become stupid. Stupid people are easy to exploit, such as by the very same CRIMINALS who put the aspartame into their food in the first place. These elite criminals then exploit the people they have dumbed-down to further their nefarious agenda. I wonder if you know what I am writing about? I will give you a few clues: destruction of natural habitats, 9/11, 7/7, Iraq, Afghanistan, HAARP, high altitude aerosolized chemical distribution, pollution, etc.

http://www.dldewey.com/aspar.htm

http://www.dorway.com/indexnew.html

Sweet Misery (trailer): http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid...QJBChRP_2emeyJw


MSG: this poison is also addictive and added to foods to increase their appeal. It has many similar effects to those of aspartame. It, too, is lethal. Both of these chemicals promote obesity. Obesity means that people consume much more food than they need, often nutrient-poor foods. A nutrient-deprived body craves food, in order to obtain the missing nutrients, so these people continue to CONSUME THE EARTH. When my home planet is literally being consumed, that is a threat to me, hence my cause for concern.

http://www.rense.com/general52/msg.htm


MEAT: The chief junk food of them all. Did you know that in order to produce a single pound of meat over 12-pounds of grain must be grown? So, instead of having 12-pounds of grain to eat, or the equivalent in other crops (more efficient and varied crops), you get a single pound of diseased, hacked-up animal corpse. This plate of death and suffering not only required around 12-pounds of grain, but also 2,500 gallons of water (Australia might be interested in that piece of information right now, considering their drought). This meat required around 20-times more land than the calorific equivalent in nutritious plant food to produce. So if people stopped eating it, not only would their health improve but also VAST areas of the Earth would be freed. We could use this land to improve the quality of all our lives. Trees and forests could be planted (here in the UK, trees are very rare, thanks to greed and ignorance prompting people to chop most of them down) and everyone could have their own little patch of land. We could have more countryside to roam around in, more peace and more privacy.

Earthlings:

http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid...bZlnSpm3Jcb6gvg

Apart from wasted land, wasted water, wasted energy and wasted crops, a single pound of meat also means that 35-pounds of topsoil was depleted and more than an entire gallon of gasoline (equivalent energy of) was burned, habitats are destroyed by the pesticides sprayed over the meat-animals food crops, and massive supplies of drinking water is continually contaminated. What contaminates this water, apart from the pesticide run-off? – Excrement from cows. Did you know that in the US farm animals (livestock) produce around 250,000 pounds of excrement per second? The human population only produces around 12,000 pounds per second, and the humans have a sewage system to deal with it, the cows do not! That farm animal excrement is left to foul waterways and cause human disease and other negative effects.

Diet For A New America:

http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid...g6_Zp56fcf4MVGQ

For other facts on meat production, see below.



And how is meat derived, exactly? An animal, or approximately 19,000 animals every MINUTE in the USA (http://leda.law.harvard.edu/leda/data/710/Miller05.pdf ), or some 45-billion worldwide each year, are forcibly transported to the killing place, the slaughterhouse, where the usually panic-stricken, terrified animals are cruelly and painfully murdered before, and often DURING, being hacked-up and desecrated. The injustice of their unnecessary suffering is a thing I am morally forced to publically object to.


MILK, EGGS and DAIRY: Other poisonous junk foods and products of environmental vandalism, rape, cruelty and suffering. The same applies to these substances as does to meat.

http://www.dorway.com/rense.html


Etc.

I hope you get my point.


So when the actions of others threaten my life-enabling environment, then it is my business.

When the actions of others threaten the health and life of people, then I have a moral duty to speak out.

When the actions of others cause pain and suffering in animals and other sentient creatures, then I have a moral obligation to speak out.

When the actions of others threaten my safety and my health then I am forced to speak out.

Originally Posted by gt3413

Ratiodork,

Originally Posted by gt3413

Your views may have merit, I don't know. I don't have time or interest to read the studies much less research who did them to find out if they were non-biased, which is very important when you decypher what you choose to believe or not. I doubt they are scientifically sound if they are posted on a website entitled "notmilk.com". I personally think any kind of extremism is wrong and from the tone of your posts, you are an extremist in the way you believe. Step back, take a deep breath, expand your research to reputable sources and see what you come up with. I doubt the world is quite as bad as you see it. Good luck in your endeavors.

Originally Posted by gt3413

no more than you would look at or take any advice/knowledge from any sound research studies that I might post.

Originally Posted by gt3413

There would always be a reason not to believe one or the other. Believe what you wish just use some common sense and don't get pulled in by all the hoopla that you read.

Originally Posted by gt3413

Good luck

Originally Posted by gt3413

And to ratioman, I wholeheartedly agree that a plant based diet is extremely healthy and wholesome provided you consume adequate calories and complimentary proteins etc. My point was that you came off as a fanatic when you chose words and phrases such as fast filth restaurants, and speaking about animals going to slaughter who are forcibly transported to the killing place, the slaughterhouse, where the usually panic-stricken, terrified animals are cruelly and painfully murdered and finally MILK, EGGS and DAIRY: Other poisonous junk foods and products of environmental vandalism, rape, cruelty and suffeing. If you were only interested in the facts, you would have chosen words that presented facts while not invoking over the top reactions from those reading your posts. You could have simply stated the facts while providing unbiased resources and let us make up our own mind. Instead you chose the path of trying to overwhelm your readers by using fanatical type writings. If you want to be taken seriously, provide sound evidence and leave out all the hype.

Originally Posted by Ratiocinator

I say it how it is. I say it in a way that provides suitable emphasis to obvious truths that are hidden right in front of our faces.



The sites I linked to do quote their references and do use information that is unbiased and from unbiased sources. If I were to use purely scientific terms then most people would not know what the hell (pun intended) I am writing about.



Most people think bad eating consists of too much salt, sugar and fat! They have a LOT to learn.



This is a very serious topic. I do not have corrupt elites and political figures on my side. I do not have their trillions of dollars or mass media outlets at my disposal. But I do have the truth and I can provide credible facts to those receptive to them.



In a world in which increasingly large numbers of people do not even know that the toxic well-presented ‘food’ item in the neat plastic wrapping was once an animal, had emotions and was capable of thought and feeling pain, just as they are, I make no apologies for my vehemence.



If you are truly interested in learning the results of credible studies then get a copy of the book Plant Based Nutrition and Health, by Stephen Walsh PhD. Dr. Walsh specializes in the analysis of scientific studies and has formed his conclusions based on the examination of thousands of them. He has clearly laid out in his book his results and provides many pages of references. In fact usually Googling his name followed by a nutrition topic brings up many links to articles he has written or contributed to that tend to quote references and scientific studies that can be double checked on PubMed.



I wish there was a pdf version of his book but, thus far, I have failed to locate one. It is only £7.95 to buy:



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plant-Based...78507166&sr=1-1



http://www.vegansociety.com/catalog...products_id=153

Originally Posted by Ratiocinator

I do not have corrupt elites and political figures on my side. I do not have their trillions of dollars or mass media outlets at my disposal.

Originally Posted by Ratiocinator

I say it how it is. I say it in a way that provides suitable emphasis to obvious truths that are hidden right in front of our faces.

Originally Posted by Jono L

OK, here's your problem.

1) HYPERBOLE, the use of capitals combined with your emotional appeals does nothing more than aggravate those who disagree with you; it doesn't promote any discussion. You could be 100% correct but you'll persuade no-one with your "world is going to end' attitude. Take a deep breath.