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16-05.-2007, 03:56 AM

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Re: Who is who?

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Originally Posted by ilpirata

For a long time, from when this Spanish scandal of world-wide importance, known as “Operacion Puerto”, burst on the scene, the name of Alejandro Valverde is on the mouth of all. The major Spanish media has connected the Valv-Piti acronym to him. As “Birillo” was the name of the dog of Ivan Basso, therefore “Piti” is the name of the dog of Valverde. The varesino has been slaughtered, stripped naked, for the Spanish rider there has been only silence, indifference, above all an excessive precaution, regarding his involvement.
In Spain, at the moment, nobody has moved a finger. The Spanish Federation makes believe nothing is happening, the Uci of Pat Mc Quaid has s appeared neither strong, or convincing in matter. Now, however, something moves and it has come out, that within two months also on the the great Spanish rider, the attentions and the eyes of all will be directed. The most rigorous it seems are his own employers, a French bank, the Caisse d' Epargne, directed from that old fox named Miguel Maria Echevarri, mentor of Miguel Indurain. The Napoleone of cycling, this small great man of the two wheels, stays silent, but the French leaders are making of all in order to uncover what they can from the Spanish cycling society on Echevarri that his pupil, in the attempt to put a little clarity in a world that is still too much anchored to it’s old ways “.

Valverde is probably a goner. It seems the only reason he escaped last summer was that the Spanish investigators decided not to include him because the evidence he worked with Fuentes was a couple years old. He appears to have been with Fuentes while he was riding with Kelme, just like the rest of the Kelme team. The investigators were not consistent because they were quick to include Hamilton, who's relationship with Fuentes was also a couple years old.

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16-05.-2007, 07:05 AM	#62
thecyclist Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 287	Re: Who is who? "LAS" is probably also Lance. Lance ArmStrong.

18-05.-2007, 05:12 PM	#63
Grater Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 247	Re: Who is who? I don't want to think about it, but Guri = Guerinni?

20-05.-2007, 03:26 AM

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Re: Who is who?

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Originally Posted by whiteboytrash

"thecyclist" how do the riders get introduced to Fuentes ? Through a DS or other riders ?

Google the name Dr. Luigi Checchini and Bjarne Riis together and you'll see what pops up.

Dr Checchini is an Italian "prepatore" or coach who whelpsed Bjarne Riis win the 1996 Tour de France.

He also connected Hamilton with him while at CSC. Most likely Basso too. And it's not too far a stretch of the imagination to include the like of Cancellara and Voigt in there too!

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20-05.-2007, 04:05 AM

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I hope she plans on using cloth diapers...

20-05.-2007, 04:24 AM

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Re: Who is who?

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Originally Posted by Les DemonCats

Basso and Cancellara worked with Checcini since their Fassa Bortolo days. Voigt isn't a Checcini client.

20-05.-2007, 05:18 AM

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Basso and Cancellara worked with Checcini since their Fassa Bortolo days. Voigt isn't a Checcini client.

While Voigt isn't a Checchini client, he is a Riis rider. And he has some surprising results.

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09-06.-2007, 02:20 PM	#68
Frigo's Luggage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,204	Re: Who is who? Is there any speculation that "Oso" might be Angel Vicioso?

10-06.-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Frigo's Luggage

Is there any speculation that "Oso" might be Angel Vicioso?

A tip: "Oso" means "bear" in spanish.

11-06.-2007, 03:34 AM	#70
thecyclist Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 287	Re: Who is who? Isn't it one of the Osa brothers? I don't remember it being on any of the lists of unidentifíed names.

11-06.-2007, 11:42 AM

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It looks like "Oso" and not "Osa". I could be wrong but it looks like an "o". Here is the link to the document.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/newsphot...sh_mag/IMG_2197

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Isn't it one of the Osa brothers? I don't remember it being on any of the lists of unidentifíed names.

12-06.-2007, 12:40 AM	#72
alibat Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 154	Re: Who is who? Looks like things are going to get a lot worse again just prior to the Tour, according to cyclingnews.com. Gerolsteiner Team Manager Hans-Michael Holczer expects that "something big will happen" before the Tour de France starts, in relation to the list of riders allegedly involved in Operación Puerto. The ProTour team managers are scheduled to meet with UCI President Pat McQuaid June 19. T-Mobile's technical director, Luuc Eisenga told the dpa that "it could be that the UCI has evaluated the 6000 page document from the Spanish investigators." The Kölner Express newspaper said that it is expected that the UCI will announce after the meeting which riders will not be allowed to ride the Tour this year because of their involvement in Operación Puerto. There is allegedly a list of 53 to 58 riders. It is further speculated that others who are not involved in the Spanish doping affair but who have confessed to being involved in the Telekom 1990s doping scandal, could also be rejected from the Tour - for example, Erik Zabel of Team Milram, Sport Director Rolf Aldag and Directeur Sportif Brian Holm of Team T-Mobile, and CSC Team Manager Bjarne Riis. Also mentioned in Walter Godefroot, advisor to Team Astana, who has denied any involvement with the Telekom 1990s doping scandal. So, will Valverde be in or out, and can they really ban Godefroot?

12-06.-2007, 07:50 AM

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Re: Who is who?

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Originally Posted by deras

1. Jan Jan ullrich confirmed
2. Birrillo Basso confirmed
3. Sansone ?
4. Nicol ?
5. Sevillano Probably Oscar Sevilla
6. Santi Santiago Botero
7. 1AI ?
8. ATR ?
9. Urko Ullrich or Oscar Pereiro?
10 Rosa Cunego, Simoni, Savoldelli, ?
11. 4142 ?
12. Guti, Gutierez no doubt but which
13. Alcalde ?
14 RH ?
15. César ?
16. VCS Angel Vicioso?
17. Goku Don't know who but know it is an anime figure in dragonballz Mancebo?
18. Clasicómano Luigi Cancellara?
19. Huerta o Clasicómano Luis Leon Sanchez?
20. Jacksche ( no codename given)
21 Zabballa
22.Guri ?
23. Azul ?
24. Valv Pitti I think there is no doubt this is Valverde
25. Pepito Sad to say but Betini maybe?
26. Pavarotti Cipolini?
27. Vains ?
28. Gemma?

Who do you think? for more information http://www.cadenaser.com/articulo/d...srcsrdep_8/Tes/

I know a bit late but this is fun

27. Vains = Roman Vainstein ?
14. RH = Roberto Heras

but let me read the rest of thread. Apologies if these are "already mentioned".

12-06.-2007, 08:03 AM

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Re: Who is who?

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Originally Posted by deras

Wow that really is a smart one. But than maybe we can link this shit to anyone. By the isn't it strange there are no french dutch belgian or english riders on the list. Maybe they get there doping somewhere else (atlthough I cannot believe rabobank guys to use doping.)

Last French to dope were nobodys riding for Cofidis. And most were caught. If they doped, they would win races.

13-06.-2007, 01:01 AM	#75
helmutRoole2 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,894	Re: Who is who? I am RH. __________________ "Bait in 08" --nns1400

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