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Join Date: May 2007
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I have read a lot of about the Coggan Power Profile being a poor predictor of actual results. I thought I might start a thread where we can post our own results of our power profile test. 5 sec, 1 min, 5 min, 20 and 60 min. Pure power numbers, not power to weight. I think that power to weight has its place, but doesn't do justice to flat races and crits.
Please be honest!! Forgive me if this has been done already, I did a search and all I could find was a thread on LT power. What to post: Age: Category: Weight in pounds: Years you have been training seriously: (yes that is subjective) Avg weekly training hours: Best power in 5 sec: 1 min: 5 min: normalized and standard power 20 min: normalized and standard power 60 min: normalized and standard power To get things started here are my numbers. Age: 30 Category: 3 (first year) Weight in pounds: 193 Years training: 3 Avg Weekly Training hours: 8.5 Best power in 5 sec: 1437 1 min: 702 5 min: 566, 522 NP 20 min: 374, 414 NP 60 min: 308, 330 NP In cycling peaks I am a high cat 4 for 5 sec, high cat 4 for 1 min, middle cat 2 for 5 min, and low cat 4 for 60 min. Probably because of weight issues. I don't do well in hilly races, of course. In crits I am consistently in the top 5 in cat 3 races...well most of the time. I have no idea if these numbers are good bad or in between. Any info you can provide is helpful. Shiny side down... Thanks |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Age: 23
Category 4 Weight: 142 Years Training: 2 Avg weekly training hours: 8-12 Best power in 5 sec: 733 1 min: 474 5 min: 322 average / 355 normalized (??) 20 min: 285 average / same normalized 60 min: 260 average / 274 normalized Not a fan of 1 hour tests, so I could probably do better there. Short term numbers are bad, but I'm working on it. Not sure about the 5 min normalized number. I'd be very surprised if I could do that. Seems like a bad NP number. 5 second numbers are in the untrained area. 1 min numbers are Cat 5ish, and the 5 min and 20 min numbers are on the border between Cat 3 / 2. I've only done collegiate races really this season, in the B category. Consistantly survived selections and made it to the end of races. My crit experience is more spotty. Only Cat 4 crit I've done this season I struggled in. The numbers probably explain why. |
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Category 4
Years trainings: ~2.5 Hours per week: 10-15 Weight: 163 lbs Power measurement device: PT 5 Sec: 1227 1 Min: 521 5 Min: 368 20 Minute: 323 60 Min: 302 My 5 sec, 5 min, and 60 min numbers are generally cat 3. 1 Minute, cat 5. I have the strength, but need to learn how to race. I am always there at the end, but have a lot of trouble with positioning into the sprint. |
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Age: 48
Category: 2 Weight in pounds: 148 Years you have been training seriously: >30 Avg weekly training hours: 7 Best power in 5 sec: 930 1 min: 540-580 (depends on how I'm training) 5 min: 355 AP (you shouldn't trust normalized power over such a short duration) 20 min: 320 NP/310 AP 60 min: 312 NP/300 AP |
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Age : 36
Weight in Kg : 75 Years training : 3 (only the last winter went to power instead of HR) Weekly hours : 10 5 sec : 1152 1 min : 651 5 min : 517 20 min : 358 1 hour : 298 (but never went all the way for one hour) |
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This is great stuff. Eventually I will take all of this and put it in a spreadsheet. Thanks for the replies.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Age: 17
Weight: 143 lbs/65 kilos Yeahs Training: 1.5 Average Weekly Hours: 12? Estimated. 5 Second: 1108 1 Minute: 520? Never really done a 1 minute full effort. 5 Minute: 380 20 Minute: 335 NP/330 AP (no full gas efforts recently. CP model predicts 340) 60 Minutes: 325 Np/N/a for AP, CP-Monod predicts 330 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Age: 40
Category: 1 Weight in pounds: 170 Years training: 25 Years racing: 21 Avg Weekly Training hours: 8 - 12 Best power in 5 sec: 1334 1 min: 653 5 min: 400 (AP) 20 min: 321 AP, 344 NP 60 min: 275 AP, 321 NP All these numbers are from an elevation of 6000 - 7000', in theory the 5-60 minute numbers would be higher at sea level. In 2003 at sea level for example, my 20 minute AP was 349W, or roughly 10% higher. Also, the 275W AP 60 minute effort is just the highest hour I happen to have done recently. It was during a 30 mile breakaway in the middle of a 4 hour road race. I haven't tested 60M power or done a 40k TT in the last 6 months. |
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Age: 20
Category: USA Cat 1 Weight in pounds: 167 Years you have been training seriously: (yes that is subjective): 2 Avg weekly training hours: 15-20 Best power in: 5 sec: 1462 watts 1 min: 802 watts 5 min: 495 AP 20 min: 405 AP, 412 NP 60 min: 379 AP, 398 NP I race halfway decent in flat and rolling road races, crits I'm okay. Time trials and breakaway riding is my favorite though, a good solid day in the saddle. I think Coggan's chart is pretty damn accurate, it places me in the Cat 1 range for 5 and 1 min power, and Cat 2 sprint and FT power. On another note, someone can do 550+ watts for 5 minutes! That's some serious power, no matter what the weight of the rider. You have some potential for sure. ***Edit: SRM Pro powermeter, calibrated slope and checked 2x this year individually and by SRM service center in CO. Last edited by EpicriderGMAC : 17-05.-2007 at 04:36 AM. Reason: Add Powermeter info |
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The highest figure I see above is 517 W, but either way, you're right: that's some serious power (enough to be competitive at the world level in the pursuit, assuming reasonably low drag anyway). |
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Yeah, all we need now are about 10,000 more responses - and to verify that all of the #s are right, of course - and we'll be able to put together some power profiling charts! ![]() |
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it'd be nice for folks to state what PM they are using too. PT vs. SRM will introduce -10W or so. Power-estimators don't count at all . ![]()
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Age: 38
Category: polish masters, age category Weight in pounds: 172/78kg Years you have been training seriously: 3 Avg weekly training hours: 12-16 Best power in: 5 sec: 1177 watts 1 min: 645 watts 5 min: 434 watts 20 min: 359 AP, 391 NP 60 min: 314 AP, 368 NP Never really done steady all-out 60min effort. FTP from Monod = 355W Edit: PowerTap SL |
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op's is 566W AP or 522 in case AP/NP were reversed
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