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Join Date: May 2004
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I used to believe some of the stuff I read on this forum, but now that every Cat 4 or 5 puts down 20+watts per kilo on their sprints is just ridiculous. America sucks at track sprinting on a world level because all of our country's top 200M sprinters are Cat 4 roadies with no desire to be famous World Cup Champions but are content to be just local training ride pack animals. Short Tirade over.
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#77 | |
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Guys like Hushovd and Boonen don't win sprints as a result of having a really high 5 s power. |
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would you not agree though that top sprinters have very high top end 5 sec power, and that the reason non sprinters can't beat them is that they have lower power over such a short duration? |
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What kind of 100 meter times do you think top marathon runners can do? |
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Compared to, say, a GC rider, sure. Compared to, say, a match sprinter (or many a high school football player), not really. Quote:
1. Sprints are almost always longer than 5 s. 2. You can sprint to a win in a flat stage of something like the Tour de France while producing a peak power of only ~15 W/kg. To do so, though, you first have to ride >200 km and generate >8 W/kg for at least a minute just to be in position to unleash your "massive" kick. |
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Oh and fwiw 5 second: 1299 1 minute: 580 5 minutes: 370 60 minutes: 291 (this was on Mt. Diablo but it came 2 hours into the ride) I've done 330 for 30 minutes in a race so I suspect that I could do higher for an hour. |
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this makes a great deal of sense.....thanks. |
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: CA
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ditto I've ridden casual rides with a local div3 pro, and I can usually take him in a sprint while goofing around. As he rides with a PT as well, I also know I have a higher 5sec power (when fresh). I've ridden with the same guy in a small group ride where we are really going at it. Never beat him in the sprint. Never been next to him in the sprint. Never stayed on his wheel long enough to even consider the sprint.....
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Age: 44 Mass: 85 kg Years training: 2 in the late 80's, 3 in the mid-90's and the last five (10 total). Favorite: FLAT TT's. 5-sec: 1050W (race) 1-min: 625W (race) 5-min: 450W (race) 20-min: 414W (training) 60-min: 400W (training) All average powers from a PT Pro.
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