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Old 24-07.-2007, 08:07 PM   #16
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Wow.

I was just telling my friend the other day that we pay too much taxes, and guess what? Within the month, the government announced a lower tax rate. I guess they were listening to me as well.

How about showing some real data? Specifically, how many letters / e-mails have you sent out to leaders in the cycling industry, and how many responses have you got. Note that responses telling you to buzz off don't count.

Still, I come back to my main premise. You seem to have good points to make, but no-one will ever listen if you can't separate the facts from the personal attacks. Haven't you learned this in your life experiences yet? I mean, how old are you now Ed - I gather that you're somewhat older than 12.
Yo,

Have you heard of this guy:
-----Original Message-----
From: Jocelyn Lovell [mailto:jocelynlovell@bellnet.ca]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:34 PM
To: ed@arzouian.com
Subject: you

Dear Ed,

Now and then I get emails from you about the CCA. I like what you write.

Sincerely,

Jocelyn Lovell


I'll send along many more...
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Old 24-07.-2007, 08:11 PM   #17
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Yo,


I guessed you missed these. Read them until I get more at my office today:


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Not that I need to prove anything to you, you're a nobody, but here are few recommendations, letters of support and simple email exchanges with all types of people in the sport. You can find my accomplishments posted everywhere, just Google me.

I always like this one:
A recommendation from Patrick Van de Wille
To the CCA, I'd like to offer a recommendatioin for my employment from the illustrious cycling writer and TV Commentator, Patrick Van de Wille. As you are well aware Mr. Van de Wille has been around the sport for a long time, not as long as me, but long nevertheless, many people think he knows his stuff.

Here is what Mr. Van de Wille had to say about my cycling knowledge:
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"Whoa boy, I think it's silly to say I have better knowledge of cycling than Ed. My own list of racing accomplishments is very, very scarce (though I did win one of the two races I entered, riding Chris Firek's too-tall bike and dressed up in the Ultramar Bear suit for the celebrity race). My only claim is spectator- and journalist-side."
Posted on Pedal Magazine Web Forum: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:07 am
Thank you.

Here's a guy who runs a cycling training camp:
From: aXX XXXXXin [mailto:aXXXX@cogeco.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:44 PM
To: Ed Arzouian
Subject: Re: Rob Jones, head buried deep, deep in sand!




Thanks Ed for the update. You're doing good work keeping us informed on the Association. Let us know if there is a CCA meeting coming up where the interested public (like me) can attend. Axxx.


You wanted something from Brett Stewart. I'm not really at liberty to release to detailed info but suffice to say he and I correspond:

From: Brett Stewart [mailto:director@canadian-cycling.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:04 PM
To: 'Ed Arzouian'
Subject: RE: Your support




Nothing wrong with working all the angles, Ed. It will be interesting to see what unfolds.



BS



(Good initials eh?)


From: Brett Stewart [mailto:director@canadian-cycling.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:26 PM
To: 'Ed Arzouian'
Subject: RE: Glad you are sticking around




Thanks Ed,



New knee, new position… what more could a guy want?



All for now,

Brett



How about Lister Farrar in BC. I figure I no longer owe him anything:

From: Lister Farrar [mailto:listerfarrar@telus.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:13 PM
To: 'Ed Arzouian'
Subject: RE: Are you back?




Hi Ed:



Thanks for the reminder to turn off the auto reply.



Sure I’ll support you for the job. I’ve been a bit of a critic lately on the national centres paper and on Sprockids. You might not want me!



Two requests though. Try to avoid the personal stuff, and let people hang on more on their actions (or lack of them). Two, can you really involve the volunteer side? I’ve been really disappointed with Huts and the current regime, especially Kris Westwood, who goes off half-cocked all the time. I think Steve is better, but he’ll get toasted soon if Kris keeps up his arrogant style.



Lesley has been very quiet, and has not responded to my offer to help with a platform and some announcements. Have you spoken with her?



What about Blanshard as president? I’ve always been impressed with him, though you may not because he was the one driving the denial of the license to Jeanson. I think that took some balls to ask questions before giving her a license.



Cheers

Lister


How about Louis Barbeau of the Quebec Federation on the other side of the country:



From: Louis Barbeau [mailto:lbarbeau@fqsc.net]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:30 AM
To: 'Ed Arzouian'
Subject: RE: Congratulation Mr. President!




Hi Ed,



Thanks for the good word. I have plenty of work with the FQSC and my volunteer work with the CCA, the Canadian Paralympic Committee and the UCI.



Cheers,



And finally, how about the current President of the Canadian Cycling Assoiciation. Can you read French "Ed's a ped"?:

From: Pierre Blanchard [mailtoierre.blanchard1@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Ed Arzouian; earzouianhotmail.com
Subject: Te parler de divers sujets




Bonjour Ed,



j'aimerais discuter avec toi de différents sujets concernant le cyclisme en général mais surtout de l'état du cyclisme au Canada.



Quand est-ce un bon temps pour toi et à quel numéro je peux te joindre?



au plaisir de se parler



Pierre

I could go on most of the day providing this stuff , but you get the idea. I have coaches, officials, athletes, Olympic atheltes, industry people all offering support.
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Old 25-07.-2007, 11:41 AM   #18
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Ed

Finally a post I can agree with. Cycling does seem to be in a sorry state in Canada - even I (a purely recreational cyclist) notice that we don't seem to have anything going on here. I don't hear about big Canadian names, or big Canadian races, or big Canadian cycling victories. I also noticed no Canadians in the TdF this year.

It has to be the fault of the people running the show, but on the other hand, it also depends on how the organization sees itself. If it sees its role as supporting cycling for the masses, then maybe they are doing a good job. If it is to support and develop Canadian athletes, they seem to be failing.

Who does oversight of the cycling organization to make sure the government is getting proper use of our tax dollars? And if there is indeed a problem, why aren't they taking action to fix it?
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Old 25-07.-2007, 12:59 PM   #19
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Now you are beginning to ask the right questions.


Why doesn't Sport Canada step in when so many obvious and serious mistakes are being made?

There have been no Canadian men in the Tour de France for years.

And please do not give me this bull about all the problems in the sport. Those problems are for journalist to create headlines. Have you seen the huge crowds in England and in France for the Tour this year and there is not even a French rider anywhere near the top.

In the US, which used to lag behind Canada in terms of event and media coverage now has us beat hands down. There are very big races in the US, lots of TV coverage and lots of strong riders.

The problems stems from a lack of leadership at the top.

How can Lorraine Lafreniere lead the sport when she knows nothing about it?
How can Bill Kinash, who held back the sport for 20 years in Saskatchewan be expected to do anything different on the national scene?

You have killed the sport, Bill. Mission Accomplished. Walk away.

Lorraine, you are an embarrassment to and a slap in the face of every person with experience and knowledge of the sport.

Leave and let cyclists take back their sport.
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Old 25-07.-2007, 02:52 PM   #20
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How can Australia field so many riders and Canada so few?





There is always somewhere warm to ride.
We are very sport obsessed over here - I don't know what it is like in Canada, but over here it is SPORT SPORT SPORT.
I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but sometimes it seems a little unbalanced, my local town for example has a tiny library and public schools screaming out for money, but plenty of well kept sporting fields, indoor and outdoor and massive amounts of sport on television.

Also, if an Australian ever does anything wrong, doping etc, not mentioning names - coughcoughIanThorpecoughsplutter, it's always, "no it wasn't his fault", not our sporting heros and it's forgotten about, even by the Prime Minister.

Oh yeah, if we lose at something it's always the other team's cheating tactics - particularly in the rugby union, swimming and cricket. We blame the Chinese for taking steroids and stealing our swimming medals, the English and South Africans for being too rough and unfair (in Rugby this is!!!) and in cricket, it used to be the New Zealanders but now in the new age of post 9-11 racism, it's Inida and Pakistan

Plus it's always sunny and you want to go for a ride instead of school or work.
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Old 25-07.-2007, 07:54 PM   #22
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You Canadian's bag your association a lot. Seen this in several threads.

Immigrate to Australia, you can ride all year around
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Old 25-07.-2007, 08:12 PM   #23
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Don't forget Australia has some of our best Canadian coaches, like Martin Barras.
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Old 15-08.-2007, 09:58 PM   #24
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I'm an Aussie and follow the adventure's of Fausto vs Cycling Canada with keen interest. As for Aussies 6: Canada 0 well there's only one thing to say really:

BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGg gggggggghhhh (roflmao)

I hate it when I run out of breath mid laughter.



Now all you kiddies that like to attack Fausto coz you've got nothing better to do with your meaningless lives please let him be. He's the only one on the Interwebby thing that's providing any insight on how to create a national failure and maintain it despite alternate mediocrity being available.



BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGg gggggggghhhh (wheeeeeeze) ahahahaaaaa....
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Old 16-08.-2007, 06:41 PM   #25
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I think one of the main issues in Canada is that most or at least many riders quit at the age of 20-25 and just disappear from the sport. Issues lie in the provinces rather than in CCA and as provincial associations form the CCA these issues spread upwards.

I know Ed disagrees with me but IMO change should be started from provincial cycling associations to make permanent change for better.
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Old 18-08.-2007, 05:54 AM   #26
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Used to be Canada had a number of good cycling provinces. There was, of course, Quebec, always very good, Ontario, Manitoba, Alberta and BC.


Now, Quebec is still the best province, BC is doing very well, Ontario has good riders but poor organization. Alberta and Manitoba as provincial associations sem to have fallen far behind.*

Sure, it would help to improve things in the provinces but without leadership in Ottawa it won't mean much on a national or international scale. you need ntional events and national sponsors.

Speaking of sponsors, looks like things at the CCA are as dead as ever in that regard. Lorraine Lafreniere has done nothing more than Steve Lacelle or Kim Sebrango. She should quit as they did.

*PS Saskatchewan, thanks to Bill Kinash, has been for at least the last 30 years the worst cycling province in the country,
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