colored cyclist

iliveonnitro

Some of these posts are hilarious.

There are a few blacks in the domestic pro teams and they are fast as hell. I ride with an older (mid 30s) black guy who just got into cycling a couple years ago and he's doing damn well.

Whats with the ultra-PC "people of color" useage? I'm white and I always have to do a double take if someone says "caucasian."

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Olie

Are you including the UK in that statment?

Induray

My wife (she's fm JA) says yadi/yardie is a jamaican native.Derogatory? Maybe...but does not have the connotation of the "n" word. Is like calling me a "jibaro" fm Puerto Rico. Or calling a Jax native redneck..etc.

doctorSpoc

i'm telling you the origins of the word... you are refering to someone as a slave... an outdoor, dark, real african, no cream in the coffee, working in the fields slave... it's bad... and like the "n" word it realy depends who's saying it, and how they are saying it... if two good black friends say to each other... hey you are my "n" then that's a good thing... but could also say.. get out of my f'n way "n" that's a bad thing, but in almost any situation if a white person says "n" that is always a bad thing... there is just too much bad history there... i feel like John Conner talking to the Terminator, in Terminator 2

it's like you can call your best friend numb nuts, but if someone walked up to you on the street and called you numb nuts, that would be a bad thing.

calling another black person yardie or "n" can be a show of affection... saying you are a brother in the struggle, we share a connection on that level.. a white person can't have that connection since they haven't lived in black skin, so a white person saying yardie or "n" can only be an insult or just a show of complete and utter ignorance. but, yeah, likely if a white person called a black Jamaican person yardie they would likely just think you were stupid and ignorant rather than taking it as an insult... wouldn't try the same thing with the "n" word though... so there is somewhat a difference but they are both still very derogatory.

tonyzackery

I'm fully aware this is a cycling forum and this thread has gone way off subject, however "Dr. Spoc" I sure would hope that you are in fact a Black person otherwise your above "expert" analysis will assuredly be called into question...by me, for one.

And this is coming from a Black, colored, n***** (and I take more offense to a Black person calling me a n***** than a White person as I know the White person is only trying to get a reaction from me), yardie, coon, darkie, etc...or whatever colorful adjective people in the majority like to use for us...

doctorSpoc

...of course you are correct that i should have really said that only some black people would not take offence at another black person calling them by any of those derogatories (i only gave a rationale for why/how it is a black person might not taking offense when it comes from another black person). but, as you say, larger numbers of black people, probably the vast majority of black people would take offense at another black person even using or writing the word "n" much less being called one... yup.. i agree.

bodaciousguy

wow, you would notice something as insignigicant as that wouldn't you? Everyone is out to get you, right? What does it matter if you're black or white if all you want to do is turn pro? Quit making excuses or quit now.

tonyzackery

What island do you live on?

bodaciousguy

What's that supposed to mean?

I'm referring to the original post if you were confused.

tonyzackery

Obviously, the Op's question was significant to HIM - if it isn't to YOU, so be it. Your assumption (and you know what assumptions do for YOU) that he's making an excuse for not making pro because he's "colored" is ignorant. And your inference as such led to my comment...Clear things up for you, oh confused one??

bodaciousguy

I stand corrected. If the question is important to him then my opinion why he asked doesn't matter.

But really, let's think why else would he ask something like that if he wasn't searching for an excuse? Does your race really have anything to do with turning pro? I'm saying if you want to turn pro this should not even be a question. Your first and most obvious question should be "what does it take to become pro?". You think someone like Rahsaan Bahati as a junior told himself: "Gee, there aren't any black pros. I guess that I means I should quit because I'll never make it"?

Eden

You are assuming quite a bit. The original poster makes no mention of quitting. He just seems to be feeling like an outsider in his cycling club. I can understand this. Cycling can be cliquish enough to be intimidating even if everyone else there looks like you and has a similar background. Just because the guy is looking for a role model doesn't mean he thinks that he can't do well without one.

drmarthacastro

I wouldn't feel left out if I were a black cyclist. I am a very short -5 foot-Hispanic female and do not fit the general cyclist profile I guess, but as soon I get on my bike I feel like a little Lance Armstrong pedaling away.

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jhuskey

As long as your feet reach the pedals....you are cool.
Give em hell!

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