Jasmine embarrasses herself!!!!!

Uboat

You are a true fucking sociopathic asshole, Arzouian. How dare you belittle me mention the loss of my child. I don't use my real name here because you stalk and harass anyone who disagrees with you. You don't use your real name here because you have been banned everywhere, including here. I guess Fausto is not real, either.

You're the sickest person I've ever come across.

Fausto Coppied

Uboat, there is no proof of me stalking anybody, anywhere ever.

There is no proof of harassment either. Disagreeing with someone or proving them incorrect or foolish is not harrassment. Check the definition. If you or anybody cannot come here and prove their points, that's not my fault.

I think you are a coward, like most people on most web sites who claim to be in the know and refuse to acknowledge who they are.

I know a guy whose grandmother died every time he ned to change an airline reservation. That old lady died at least four or five times a year.

If you have such a problem with suicide get professional psychiatric help instead of ranting about it on a cycling forum.

holli

Well...even I know that you could behave little bit better. Calling people coward, idiot, incompetent, etc. isn't really good behaviour even if it's online?

I would say that if you have such a problem with current state of canadian cycling then do something as you, according to your own words, are pretty much the best person to lift it up from the ditch it's lying at the moment. If you just want to rant because you were kicked out the CCA express gravy train you can do that as long as you want but don't expect people to take you seriously. 80's and 90's are behind us.

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holli

Completely off topic. That's what my ex-coach kept telling me. That's just outdated method and isn't the best way to build aerobic engine. Endurance rides have their place but they are more like once a week stuff. More endurance rides will just hinder ones ability to recover and that's not a good thing.

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Ed's a ped

Again, half truths and ommissions. You stated that you would show up at a training camp after having no training and drop the best women. Are you still saying that? What I am saying is that you never trained hard enough to compete with the current crop of juniors at a national level. What was fast back then is not fast now. But live in your glory days. You're the kind of guy who can't evolve, which is why you are obsolete and can't succeed at anything today.

Fausto Coppied

Last time I ran a race was not 1990s but 2003.

I have a long list of suggestion that anybody at the CCA can act on.

Fausto Coppied

What half-truths?

What ommissions?

You are correct in the middle of winter, coming from sea level to 6000 ft. as a Senior I, I could drop all the women at the US Olympic training camp. Any one of the 50 to 60 guys there could.

What was fast back then was Steve Bauer, Davis Phinney, Hugh Walton, Greg LeMond et al and that who I raced against in the Pro-Am SeniorI & II races. We raced against Bauer's La Vie Claire Team in a Toronto Stage race once in '86 or '87.

Ed's a ped

Well, what is currently done is periodization. Riding a long ride once a week is not periodization. All the energy systems work off of having a strong aerobic system and you need to do the rides to have this. I coach some athletes that have had great success at a national level and I know that what I do works.

I still believe that this thread is to poke at Ed. If you want to talk about programs we could do it on another thread.

holli

Sure. I'm following training sections in this forum too.

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Fausto Coppied

Still waiting...


What half-truths?

What ommissions?

You are correct in the middle of winter, coming from sea level to 6000 ft. as a Senior I, I could drop all the women at the US Olympic training camp. Any one of the 50 to 60 guys there could.

What was fast back then was Steve Bauer, Davis Phinney, Hugh Walton, Greg LeMond et al and that who I raced against in the Pro-Am SeniorI & II races. We raced against Bauer's La Vie Claire Team in a Toronto Stage race once in '86 or '87.

kclw

[QUOTE=Ed's a ped]Well, what is currently done is periodization. Riding a long ride once a week is not periodization. All the energy systems work off of having a strong aerobic system and you need to do the rides to have this. I coach some athletes that have had great success at a national level and I know that what I do works.

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Actually the large volume idea is a bit dated. Exercise physiologist have really changed their opinion on how to develope an aeobic bases. Volumes are dropping across the boards. Many elites cyclist have dropped volume by 30% or more and are racing better.

How people develope the aerobic system has changed. Instead of doing a 6hr ride at a low intensity riders are doing 3hrs at a higher intensity. Shorter rides at a higher intensity have been shown to have a higher trainning benifit.
Think about it, if you sat on a bike for 6hrs and didn't pedal you would be tired from just sitting there. On a long ride a lot of the fatique does not have any trainning benifit (other than teaching you to eat and drink). Even Greg Lemond has come out and said that there isn't a reason for any cyclist to do a ride over 4hrs.

As a coach you can never rely on the sucess of your athletes. A good athlete is born fast, trainning makes them faster and proper trainning makes them even faster. This is why I spend hours reading athletic journals. I am always looking for what will make an athlete a bit faster. The way I look at it is an athlete who uses 5 year old trainning methods will be beat by an equal athlete using modern trainning techniques. Don't be like Ed and rely on the past, there are too many people like him in the cycling the world who say "this is the way it has always been done."

Go take a read in the power meter trainning section on this forum there is some great coaches in there.

Fausto Coppied

One thing has nothing to do with the other.

Do you think Lorraine Lafreneire who is runing the CCA has any clue about this stuff? She is as taking head for public relation without the least cycling experience. this thread was about the nature of the sport not the minutinaue of training.

BTW, kclw seems more interested in attacking me than making sense, as usual, see below.

"The way I look at it is an athlete who uses 5 year old trainning methods will be beat by an equal athlete using modern trainning techniques. Don't be like Ed and rely on the past, there are too many people like him in the cycling the world who say "this is the way it has always been done." - kclw

Wouldn't you athlete using the 5 year old traiing methods and beating an ahtelte using "Modern" techniques be living in the past? You contradicted yourself.

Prety funny your long-term view of five years and "modern"!

kclw

You miss read my post Ed or misinterperted it. Either case how embarrassing for you.

holli

Lorraine Lafreneire doesn't need to know about these training methods. Smart marketing/PR/communications person can do excellent job without any deeper knowledge of for example cycling (in this case). However...good marketing/PR/communications person should have something to show after working for an organization for a year. I think there's nothing to show in this case?

Ed is calling for Canada Cup type of series for road cycling or at least big national events for all provinces. This is very difficult to do though. First problem on top of my mind is that nobody would travel from BC, Quebec or Ontario to do a race in Manitoba or Sask. if most of the costs wouldn't be covered. If starting point is to get at least 20 000$ to get some riders to do the trip, it's pretty difficult to even get wheels turning. Flights, hotels, vehicles, food for at least 50 riders from BC, Ontario and Quebec would be pretty expensive. On top of this you need good price money of at least 8000$, 4500-6000$ for men and the rest for women depending do you want elite men to show up or would you prefer having 20 women instead of 10. On top of these you need permits, stuff and things etc. etc. so you need a budget of at least 30 000$ to get it going. Then there's still a pretty big risk that many riders wouldn't come because of long distance and in elite men there would be 40-50 riders...that would prevent that event to be organized the next year or maybe ever again.

If I would start organizing a race in MB and wanted it to be big some day I would do bit differently. I would invite 2-3 teams of 5-6 riders from Alberta as they might actually come if I could provide affordable and decent accommodation and some gas money plus even 2000$ price money. Then I would try to get Sask. provincial team to send couple of riders. Then the handfull of local guys. This would be 20-30 canadian cat 1/2 riders. This is not enough for a decent race. Rather than trying to buy some riders from east or west to come I would rather try to get riders from Minnesota, North Dakota and maybe even from Wisconsin. First year or two years doing this and then, if things still work, the race would be better known and it would be easier to get BC, ON, Que. riders to make the trip.

EDIT: Training with a power meter is pretty much the latest trend and I've known the basics of that for ~7 years. Periodization is much older, and long LSD rides as a base building are very old. Better doping controls are forcing coaches and riders to think about recovery much more than before and +20 hour weeks won't let clean riders to recover. Even shorter weeks of steady training are too much for many.

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