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Old 02-10.-2007, 11:17 PM   #46
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The Canada Cups worked just fine for almost ten years from 1986 or so to 1995 or so. Teams did travel across the country, usually expenses were not paid. Even the smaller teams managed to at least travel regionally. Ideally the events are scheduled so a few of them are held around the same time in the same area, making it more feasible and cost-effective. (Lac St. Jean, Beauce, Montreal) (Vicortia, White Rock, Gastown, etc.)

Kevin Field, Steve Bauer and others are telling us there are more teams now than before and they supposedly have bigger budgets so why couldn’t they afford to do these races?



Obviously most of you have very little knowledge of the past. Winnipeg used to have a race called the Cobblestone Classic right downtown sponsored by 7-Eleven. It predated the Canada Cup Series and had big prize money and great media coverage. Not only did many Canadian riders go but 7-Eleven used to get its A Team up there to do the event. It was incorporated into the CT series.



As for Lorraine Lafreničre, even Holli can see, Lafreničre has done nothing in a year except oversee mass firings and huge budget cuts. Even her public relations work, supposedly her forte has been atrocious.



Lorraine Lafreničre has been a complete failure in her position as Canadian Cycling Association Director General. She should resign to avoid being fired.



Hiring her is another tragic mistake in a long line of tragic CCA mistakes.

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Old 03-10.-2007, 12:09 AM   #47
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The Canada Cups worked just fine for almost ten years from 1986 or so to 1995 or so. Teams did travel across the country, usually expenses were not paid. Even the smaller teams managed to at least travel regionally. Ideally the events are scheduled so a few of them are held around the same time in the same area, making it more feasible and cost-effective. (Lac St. Jean, Beauce, Montreal) (Vicortia, White Rock, Gastown, etc.)

Kevin Field, Steve Bauer and others are telling us there are more teams now than before and they supposedly have bigger budgets so why couldn’t they afford to do these races?

Obviously most of you have very little knowledge of the past. Winnipeg used to have a race called the Cobblestone Classic right downtown sponsored by 7-Eleven. It predated the Canada Cup Series and had big prize money and great media coverage. Not only did many Canadian riders go but 7-Eleven used to get its A Team up there to do the event. It was incorporated into the CT series.

I know that there was a cobblestone classic in Winnipeg. At least 7-eleven was paid to come and race but I don't know about the other teams. First race was -85, I heard, but I don't know when was the last race.

More teams with bigger budgets...possibly but the budgets are used to pay the over bloated salaries. I don't know would "just a race" be enough to attract well paid pros to travel 2000km to do 2-3 days of racing especially if costs wouldn't be mostly covered by race organizer. Things look very different from here. I'd rather establish something little smaller here that could possibly survive the first "bad" year rather than trying something too big.
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Old 03-10.-2007, 05:16 AM   #48
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I have reams and reams of info on this stuff. I have the race bibles from Cobblestone Classic and all the other Canadian Tire events, I have the letters of invitation and terms of agreement, I have the race programs, I have the results and press clippings. I have video footage.


If the CCA established a permanent cycling centre serving as headquarters, training centre, warehouse, mechanic shop with a track, let's say located around the Forrest City track I would donate all this stuff for a CDN Cycling museum and resource centre.

If I had the time I would scan it it and post it all on a web site for public review.

If the CCA and Lorriane Lafreniere didn't have their head up their ass they could probably get a grant to do this stuff.

Regarding the Winnipeg Cobblestone Classic if I remembr correctly the first event we did as Evian was in 1989 or 1990.

There was actually a conflict with the Canada Cup in Calgary I think. We split our squad to do both events. The Evian guys, Todd McNiutt, Colin Davidson, Yvan Waddell and maybe Tim Lefebvre beat the 7-Eleven pros in the rain. I think McNutt lapped the field with a couple guys and won.

Magicuts tried to do both events with the same squad. They started Graeme Miller with the intention of pullng him out of Calgary and sending him to Winnipeg. That would have been illegal. I insisted to Commissaires that if Miller started the race in Calgary he had to stay until the end of the event and his license had to be kept by commissaires, not permitting him to start the Cobblestone Classic. I don't think he started the Calgary event.

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EDIT: Training with a power meter is pretty much the latest trend and I've known the basics of that for ~7 years. Periodization is much older, and long LSD rides as a base building are very old. Better doping controls are forcing coaches and riders to think about recovery much more than before and +20 hour weeks won't let clean riders to recover. Even shorter weeks of steady training are too much for many.

Bang on.

Most cyclist grossly over estimate what they can handle for a trainning load. If you are not working, very good at resting, and have a couple of years of trainning under your belt 15-20hr is probably perfect. Any more and you are sacrificing quality for quantity. If you are a working stiff (like many of our developing racers) then 12-15 is more in the ball park.

The interesting thing is how much the increased number of the master racer has influenced trainning theory. The time limited master who doesn't recover that well has really changed the way trainning is approached. Several master I know comment that they race faster then they did as a cat 1/2 on half the volume.

Ed, go read that post again. It is clearly written, the sentence "The way I look at it is an athlete who uses 5 year old trainning methods will be beat by an equal athlete using modern trainning techniques." has a pretty clear meaning at least.

The reason why 5 year old trainning methods is not modern is because in the past 5 years how top riders train has changed dramatically. Before that the changes were quite a bit slower (riders in 80s trainned similarly to riders in the 90s).

BTW I don't make fun of your typos so don't make fun of mine.
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