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Steve Bauer, can you be specific?????

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Old 29-09.-2007, 11:57 AM   #16
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Default Re: Steve Bauer, can you be specific?????

I remember talking to the guys at Chris Lang back in the fall '93 while I was organizing the Control Data Team for '94.

I think they said they basically setup the whole CTC series exclusive of the CCA. Once they had everything in place, organizers, venues, partners, CTV TV rights and broadcasting , they just went to the CCA to rubber stamp it for credibility and administer some aspects of the series... or am I wrong on that?
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Old 29-09.-2007, 12:08 PM   #17
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I remember talking to the guys at Chris Lang back in the fall '93 while I was organizing the Control Data Team for '94.

I think they said they basically setup the whole CTC series exclusive of the CCA. Once they had everything in place, organizers, venues, partners, CTV TV rights and broadcasting , they just went to the CCA to rubber stamp it for credibility and administer some aspects of the series... or am I wrong on that?
You are correct. The CCA basically went along for the ride. Lister (a good bureaucrat) rode it well.. for as long as it lasted.

When it was done., no replacement had been fostered to step up. If it was such a great thing.. should they not have been lining up?
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Old 29-09.-2007, 10:00 PM   #18
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Jasmine, we are still waiitng for your to clean the egg of your face, coward:


Jasmine, you do know Bauer is trying to get a pro men's road squad together in Canada, right?

Exactly the opposite what you just wrote, "Cycling in N. America is no longer just about ROAD for men"!

You look more and more stupid with each keystroke.

So, you think Bauer is wating his time? He is starting a team in Canada, the place you said doesn't care about cycling. He wants male riders and he wants them on the road.

Can you say anything more stupid than you just did?

As fo Kevin Fields he agreed with me on another point, "Your point about the US team's not focusing on the America's tour is true. "

Nobody seems to agree with you, Jasmine.

Bauer, Field, Fraser and most others who know anything about cycling realize that big-time men's road-racing is what has to happen again. Everything else is just kids playing in dirt on bikes.

Nobody says it is easy but it is certainly do-able to. If you get the Cunninghams and Bauer working on their teams and they both get a third sponsor for a sereis of events to showcase their teams, or the CCA steps up to the plate for a change, then your in business. It won't happen with the likes of Lorraine Lafreniere, Bil Kinash and others in Ottawa who don't have a clue what they are doing. A real sponsor will smell their bullshit from a mile away. Just look at those stupid CanBike Tips on the CCA web site. Do you think a sponsor interested in pros wants to see something like that. It would be like Hockey Canada telling players to tie their skates. Just ridiculous.

Kevin, I think the CCA had quite a bit to do with Canadian Tire/Canada Cup success. They imposed some direction on the events. Jasmine, there would have been no Caandian Tire Canada Cups if it was not for the CCA, they made that part of the deal. Shows what you know. They brought good people into the mix. Jasmine thinks Lister rode the gravy train. Well, Lister, Tim Farrar, Howard Chang, the riders, me and everybody else involved worked hard, real hard ,to make it happen. It was a coordinated effort. We talked a great deal. We realized the importance of the continuity and branding.

Maybe Lister would like to weigh in?

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Old 02-10.-2007, 04:27 AM   #19
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And I think you might owe Svein Tuft a bit of an apology. He is much much more than a just a TT rider. Saying as much sort of shows a bit of ignorance to contemporary cycling on your part Ed. I've spent more than 70 race days with the guys on Symmetrics the last two seasons, and I can assure you Svein is a savvy savvy road racer in every way. Sure he's no super sprinter and never will be, but he can friggin win a road race and totally know's what's going down.


But the simple increase in scale of cycling now compared to then has required Symmetrics to be bigger. And Symmetrics has backed that up by now winning the individual and team classification of the Americas Tour this season, and the team has 5 of Canada's top 10 UCI ranked riders... and has earned about 60% of the UCI points that moved Canada up to 3rd ranked Nation in the UCI standings. Its hard for me to keep track of the count, but I think the team has won more than 75 races this year. The US Open win, was a calibre of win I can't ever remember a Canadian on a Canadian team ever acheiving before?

Looks like the Euro Tour is tougher than the Americas Tour, huh....!



10.01.07 - Road cycling – world championships - Tough day for Canada

September 30, 2007 – The three Canadian riders in the men’s elite race on Sunday at the world road championships in cycling in Stuttgart, Germany, did not finish. Olympic champion Paolo Bettini of Italy successfully defended his title with Alexandr Kolobnev of Russia second and Stefan Schumacher of Germany third.

Dominique Rollin of Boucherville, Que., Svein Tuft of Langley, B.C., and Cameron Evans of Delta, B.C., withdrew in the 12th, 11th and 10th laps respectively. There were 14 laps in total.

‘’The 270 kilometre course was tough and to be honest this was a completely different level of competition,’’ said Canadian team manager Kris Westwood. ‘’It’s as if the guys went from junior hockey to the NHL. It was the first elite race for all three at the world championships. We knew they wouldn’t be in contention for a medal and the question was how long they could last against such a powerful field. Today nobody had a memorable day.’’
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