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Not a couple -- one. If you do it right there won't be a thought left in your mind about trying another one. ![]() |
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Yes, typically there's a positive correlation between 5s and 1m due to the effect of neuromuscular power, and also between 5m and FTP due to the similar aerobic contribution. AC's impact kinda straddles the line between 1m and 5m, greatly aiding both. |
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Did one, full commitment (nice head ache straight away!). Averaged 608W. So I guess I'm a bit better than I thought, but it's still a good bit down on my 5min level. But then I'm not a kilo rider so maybe that's to be expected? It doesn't seem like my 5min power is as a result of a big anaerobic capacity? |
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just wondering what numbers you used for the CP-AWC analysis. On the face of it, I'd figure your AWC would be much higher than 25,000
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Why, because I did a 608W 1min test? You're gonna destroy me on this one, but looking back I based the CP-AWC on a 5min test (400W), a 10mTT (20mins @ 354W) and backed up by a 25mTT (55mins @ 335W). I also did the 560W 1min test in this time frame. The raw 5min and 20min points give an AWC of only 18400 and a CP of 338W. As the 5min test was on the turbo, I felt like I could maybe have done 415W in a race situation. That gives an AWC of 24400 and a CP of 334. I guess really if I wanted to know for sure I should do a proper set of CP tests, however when I look at my best numbers (all done in the last 12 months): 5sec: 1200W - 17.1W/kg (Cat 2/3 overlap on Power Profile tables) 1min: 608W - 8.69W/kg (Cat 2/3 overlap) 5min: 425W - 6.07W/kg (mid Cat 1) FTP: 335W - 4.79W/kg (low Cat 1) ...in combination with how I am able to race (good aerobically, get killed in any sprints), I feel it's unlikely that my high 5min power is a result of anaerobic capacity. I've also not done any dedicated Zone 6 training, or even much Zone 5. |
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I'd agree, but I wouldn't blame your lower 1m power on a low AC either. My interpretation is that a mediocre neuromuscular power (or lack of dedicated sprint training) is hurting both your 5s and 1m numbers. It's possible that some sprint work might reveal more of a ^ or -- shape. |
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okay I was plugging 8-min x 400W that you did recently and 325W for 60MP and coming up with a very large AWC. Using 354W 20MP yields CP 325 and 37000 AWC. It's pretty sensitve. FWIW, the model predicts about 445W 5MP using those two data points. In any case you already have very good power/weight ratio's .. it'll be interesting to see where training takes you.
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