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08-11.-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
Duncan Heenan wrote:
> > > "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:_OudnXTMgPQWcKzanZ2dnUVZ8vidnZ2d@giganews.com... >> Duncan Heenan wrote: >>> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message >>> news:5pe3pvFqbrccU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> snip< >>>>>> Troll. >>>>> >>>>> This from the guy who said people who compete are better than those >>>>> who swim for fitness. >>>> >>>> Right. Let's review: I said "puts you ahead of ..." which you >>>> trolled into "a disgrace to swimming." I believe it takes a certain >>>> something to commit to a competition, to train for it, to show up >>>> for it, and to perform on someone else's clock. Not everyone has >>>> the dedication or the intestinal fortitude to compete, and I applaud >>>> those who do. I do not find anything _wrong_ with those who don't, >>>> but I applaud those who do. >>>> >>>> Clear enough for you? >>>> >>>> -S- >>> >>> I agree that MWS is a troll who is simply looking for arguments. My >>> opinion is not based on this single thread though, rather having >>> watched him disagree with almost everyone on every subject, >>> apparently just for the sake of it. Micheal Artindale did say some >>> daft things in the early days, and MWS started to pick on him as a >>> result. However, MA seems to have got more sensible and taken up >>> swimming properly now, so should be given a chance, but MWS won't >>> relent. Like all bullies he likes to kick someone he feels he can >>> bully, so long as he can't be hurt himself. So for 'troll' equally >>> read 'bully' 'know-all' etc. >>> What MWS doesn't appreciate is that his behaviour simply leads people >>> to treat everything he says as nonsense, even if it isn't, and he >>> ends up destroying his own credibility rather than that of his victims. >> >> Well then, it's ok for Steve to make the kind of statements about >> competing that drive people away from masters swimming. A lot of >> potential swimmers don't come out because they think they will be >> pressured into competing. And, the fact is some masters coaches do >> apply that kind of pressure. Steve thinks it takes intestinal >> fortitude and dedication to train for competition, but apparently it >> doesn't take intestinal fortitude and dedication to do exactly the >> same training for fitness. You don't say anything about that nonsense. >> Nor did I attack Micheal, but here you are implying I did. That >> nonsense is ok too. > > QED Just like Stewie. "Victory is mine!" |
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09-11.-2007, 01:21 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:XuydnfzJnJRVWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tLinZ2d@giganews.com... > Duncan Heenan wrote: >> >> >> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >> news:_OudnXTMgPQWcKzanZ2dnUVZ8vidnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> Duncan Heenan wrote: >>>> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message >>>> news:5pe3pvFqbrccU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> snip< >>>>>>> Troll. >>>>>> >>>>>> This from the guy who said people who compete are better than those >>>>>> who swim for fitness. >>>>> >>>>> Right. Let's review: I said "puts you ahead of ..." which you trolled >>>>> into "a disgrace to swimming." I believe it takes a certain something >>>>> to commit to a competition, to train for it, to show up for it, and to >>>>> perform on someone else's clock. Not everyone has the dedication or >>>>> the intestinal fortitude to compete, and I applaud those who do. I do >>>>> not find anything _wrong_ with those who don't, but I applaud those >>>>> who do. >>>>> >>>>> Clear enough for you? >>>>> >>>>> -S- >>>> >>>> I agree that MWS is a troll who is simply looking for arguments. My >>>> opinion is not based on this single thread though, rather having >>>> watched him disagree with almost everyone on every subject, apparently >>>> just for the sake of it. Micheal Artindale did say some daft things in >>>> the early days, and MWS started to pick on him as a result. However, MA >>>> seems to have got more sensible and taken up swimming properly now, so >>>> should be given a chance, but MWS won't relent. Like all bullies he >>>> likes to kick someone he feels he can bully, so long as he can't be >>>> hurt himself. So for 'troll' equally read 'bully' 'know-all' etc. >>>> What MWS doesn't appreciate is that his behaviour simply leads people >>>> to treat everything he says as nonsense, even if it isn't, and he ends >>>> up destroying his own credibility rather than that of his victims. >>> >>> Well then, it's ok for Steve to make the kind of statements about >>> competing that drive people away from masters swimming. A lot of >>> potential swimmers don't come out because they think they will be >>> pressured into competing. And, the fact is some masters coaches do apply >>> that kind of pressure. Steve thinks it takes intestinal fortitude and >>> dedication to train for competition, but apparently it doesn't take >>> intestinal fortitude and dedication to do exactly the same training for >>> fitness. You don't say anything about that nonsense. Nor did I attack >>> Micheal, but here you are implying I did. That nonsense is ok too. >> >> QED > > Just like Stewie. "Victory is mine!" QED! (again) |
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09-11.-2007, 01:21 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:XuydnfzJnJRVWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tLinZ2d@giganews.com... > Duncan Heenan wrote: >> >> >> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >> news:_OudnXTMgPQWcKzanZ2dnUVZ8vidnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> Duncan Heenan wrote: >>>> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message >>>> news:5pe3pvFqbrccU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> snip< >>>>>>> Troll. >>>>>> >>>>>> This from the guy who said people who compete are better than those >>>>>> who swim for fitness. >>>>> >>>>> Right. Let's review: I said "puts you ahead of ..." which you trolled >>>>> into "a disgrace to swimming." I believe it takes a certain something >>>>> to commit to a competition, to train for it, to show up for it, and to >>>>> perform on someone else's clock. Not everyone has the dedication or >>>>> the intestinal fortitude to compete, and I applaud those who do. I do >>>>> not find anything _wrong_ with those who don't, but I applaud those >>>>> who do. >>>>> >>>>> Clear enough for you? >>>>> >>>>> -S- >>>> >>>> I agree that MWS is a troll who is simply looking for arguments. My >>>> opinion is not based on this single thread though, rather having >>>> watched him disagree with almost everyone on every subject, apparently >>>> just for the sake of it. Micheal Artindale did say some daft things in >>>> the early days, and MWS started to pick on him as a result. However, MA >>>> seems to have got more sensible and taken up swimming properly now, so >>>> should be given a chance, but MWS won't relent. Like all bullies he >>>> likes to kick someone he feels he can bully, so long as he can't be >>>> hurt himself. So for 'troll' equally read 'bully' 'know-all' etc. >>>> What MWS doesn't appreciate is that his behaviour simply leads people >>>> to treat everything he says as nonsense, even if it isn't, and he ends >>>> up destroying his own credibility rather than that of his victims. >>> >>> Well then, it's ok for Steve to make the kind of statements about >>> competing that drive people away from masters swimming. A lot of >>> potential swimmers don't come out because they think they will be >>> pressured into competing. And, the fact is some masters coaches do apply >>> that kind of pressure. Steve thinks it takes intestinal fortitude and >>> dedication to train for competition, but apparently it doesn't take >>> intestinal fortitude and dedication to do exactly the same training for >>> fitness. You don't say anything about that nonsense. Nor did I attack >>> Micheal, but here you are implying I did. That nonsense is ok too. >> >> QED > > Just like Stewie. "Victory is mine!" QED! (again) |
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09-11.-2007, 01:21 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:XuydnfzJnJRVWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tLinZ2d@giganews.com... > Duncan Heenan wrote: >> >> >> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >> news:_OudnXTMgPQWcKzanZ2dnUVZ8vidnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> Duncan Heenan wrote: >>>> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message >>>> news:5pe3pvFqbrccU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> snip< >>>>>>> Troll. >>>>>> >>>>>> This from the guy who said people who compete are better than those >>>>>> who swim for fitness. >>>>> >>>>> Right. Let's review: I said "puts you ahead of ..." which you trolled >>>>> into "a disgrace to swimming." I believe it takes a certain something >>>>> to commit to a competition, to train for it, to show up for it, and to >>>>> perform on someone else's clock. Not everyone has the dedication or >>>>> the intestinal fortitude to compete, and I applaud those who do. I do >>>>> not find anything _wrong_ with those who don't, but I applaud those >>>>> who do. >>>>> >>>>> Clear enough for you? >>>>> >>>>> -S- >>>> >>>> I agree that MWS is a troll who is simply looking for arguments. My >>>> opinion is not based on this single thread though, rather having >>>> watched him disagree with almost everyone on every subject, apparently >>>> just for the sake of it. Micheal Artindale did say some daft things in >>>> the early days, and MWS started to pick on him as a result. However, MA >>>> seems to have got more sensible and taken up swimming properly now, so >>>> should be given a chance, but MWS won't relent. Like all bullies he >>>> likes to kick someone he feels he can bully, so long as he can't be >>>> hurt himself. So for 'troll' equally read 'bully' 'know-all' etc. >>>> What MWS doesn't appreciate is that his behaviour simply leads people >>>> to treat everything he says as nonsense, even if it isn't, and he ends >>>> up destroying his own credibility rather than that of his victims. >>> >>> Well then, it's ok for Steve to make the kind of statements about >>> competing that drive people away from masters swimming. A lot of >>> potential swimmers don't come out because they think they will be >>> pressured into competing. And, the fact is some masters coaches do apply >>> that kind of pressure. Steve thinks it takes intestinal fortitude and >>> dedication to train for competition, but apparently it doesn't take >>> intestinal fortitude and dedication to do exactly the same training for >>> fitness. You don't say anything about that nonsense. Nor did I attack >>> Micheal, but here you are implying I did. That nonsense is ok too. >> >> QED > > Just like Stewie. "Victory is mine!" QED! (again) |
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09-11.-2007, 01:24 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com... > snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't trying > in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and intestinal > fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard without your > adrenalin rush? I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal. You really are a troll Mr Smith. Pick on someone your own size....if you know how to use a mignifying glass. |
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09-11.-2007, 01:24 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com... > snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't trying > in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and intestinal > fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard without your > adrenalin rush? I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal. You really are a troll Mr Smith. Pick on someone your own size....if you know how to use a mignifying glass. |
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09-11.-2007, 01:24 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com... > snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't trying > in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and intestinal > fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard without your > adrenalin rush? I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal. You really are a troll Mr Smith. Pick on someone your own size....if you know how to use a mignifying glass. |
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09-11.-2007, 03:39 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
Duncan Heenan wrote:
> > > "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com... > >> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't >> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and >> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard >> without your adrenalin rush? > > I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal. Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace. |
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09-11.-2007, 03:39 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
Duncan Heenan wrote:
> > > "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com... > >> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't >> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and >> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard >> without your adrenalin rush? > > I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal. Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace. |
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09-11.-2007, 03:39 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
Duncan Heenan wrote:
> > > "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com... > >> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't >> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and >> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard >> without your adrenalin rush? > > I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal. Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace. |
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09-11.-2007, 06:33 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message news:z4mdnaPnF7h01K7anZ2dnUVZ8qjinZ2d@giganews.com... > Duncan Heenan wrote: >> >> >> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >> news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >>> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't >>> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and >>> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard >>> without your adrenalin rush? >> >> I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal. > > Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who > don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace. Just be cause I have a hard time in practices, or having difficulty with something, does not mean I do not try. I go as fast and as hard as I can. Every workout, I push myself as hard as I can. I work better under pressure. I perform better when we do "excersises" as apposed to someone watching me and asking me how to do it. Mr Smith, When was the last practice you did? When was the last race you did? Was your time trial faster than your race? Micheal |
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09-11.-2007, 06:33 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message news:z4mdnaPnF7h01K7anZ2dnUVZ8qjinZ2d@giganews.com... > Duncan Heenan wrote: >> >> >> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >> news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >>> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't >>> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and >>> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard >>> without your adrenalin rush? >> >> I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal. > > Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who > don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace. Just be cause I have a hard time in practices, or having difficulty with something, does not mean I do not try. I go as fast and as hard as I can. Every workout, I push myself as hard as I can. I work better under pressure. I perform better when we do "excersises" as apposed to someone watching me and asking me how to do it. Mr Smith, When was the last practice you did? When was the last race you did? Was your time trial faster than your race? Micheal |
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09-11.-2007, 06:33 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message news:z4mdnaPnF7h01K7anZ2dnUVZ8qjinZ2d@giganews.com... > Duncan Heenan wrote: >> >> >> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >> news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >>> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't >>> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and >>> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard >>> without your adrenalin rush? >> >> I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal. > > Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who > don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace. Just be cause I have a hard time in practices, or having difficulty with something, does not mean I do not try. I go as fast and as hard as I can. Every workout, I push myself as hard as I can. I work better under pressure. I perform better when we do "excersises" as apposed to someone watching me and asking me how to do it. Mr Smith, When was the last practice you did? When was the last race you did? Was your time trial faster than your race? Micheal |
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09-11.-2007, 06:48 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
Anything you do, you shoudl doi it in some competition at least once. > Oh, Micheal, I was following you until the part about "anything you do..." That was a bit of an overreach, I think. Have you entered a cooking competition yet? Driving competition? Hiking competition? Some people like to compete, others don't. Some people talk of a "personal best" don't forget. They like to improve themselves. Although I had to stop playing competitive soccer, I still like to improve at whatever I do. It's just that I don't feel a need for competition at everything. You probably feel the same. Pat in Tx |
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09-11.-2007, 06:48 AM
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Re: My first race in 10 yrs
Anything you do, you shoudl doi it in some competition at least once. > Oh, Micheal, I was following you until the part about "anything you do..." That was a bit of an overreach, I think. Have you entered a cooking competition yet? Driving competition? Hiking competition? Some people like to compete, others don't. Some people talk of a "personal best" don't forget. They like to improve themselves. Although I had to stop playing competitive soccer, I still like to improve at whatever I do. It's just that I don't feel a need for competition at everything. You probably feel the same. Pat in Tx |
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