My first race in 10 yrs

Pat

Anything you do, you shoudl doi it in some competition at least once. >


Oh, Micheal, I was following you until the part about "anything you do..."
That was a bit of an overreach, I think. Have you entered a cooking
competition yet? Driving competition? Hiking competition? Some people like
to compete, others don't. Some people talk of a "personal best" don't
forget. They like to improve themselves.

Although I had to stop playing competitive soccer, I still like to improve
at whatever I do. It's just that I don't feel a need for competition at
everything. You probably feel the same.

Pat in Tx

mwsmith

Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:z4mdnaPnF7h01K7anZ2dnUVZ8qjinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>
>>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't
>>>> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and
>>>> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard
>>>> without your adrenalin rush?
>>> I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal.
>> Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who
>> don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace.
>
> Just be cause I have a hard time in practices, or having difficulty with
> something, does not mean I do not try.

Maybe, but when you can swim 43 in a race but you can't break 50 in a
practice, you're not trying.

mwsmith

Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:z4mdnaPnF7h01K7anZ2dnUVZ8qjinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>
>>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't
>>>> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and
>>>> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard
>>>> without your adrenalin rush?
>>> I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal.
>> Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who
>> don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace.
>
> Just be cause I have a hard time in practices, or having difficulty with
> something, does not mean I do not try.

Maybe, but when you can swim 43 in a race but you can't break 50 in a
practice, you're not trying.

mwsmith

Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:z4mdnaPnF7h01K7anZ2dnUVZ8qjinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>
>>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't
>>>> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and
>>>> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard
>>>> without your adrenalin rush?
>>> I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal.
>> Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who
>> don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace.
>
> Just be cause I have a hard time in practices, or having difficulty with
> something, does not mean I do not try.

Maybe, but when you can swim 43 in a race but you can't break 50 in a
practice, you're not trying.

Micheal Artindale

"Pat" <Orion@starrynight.com> wrote in message
news:5phb3aFqei9kU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> Anything you do, you shoudl doi it in some competition at least once. >
>
>
> Oh, Micheal, I was following you until the part about "anything you do..."
> That was a bit of an overreach, I think. Have you entered a cooking
> competition yet? Driving competition? Hiking competition? Some people
> like to compete, others don't. Some people talk of a "personal best" don't
> forget. They like to improve themselves.

If i enter a cooking competition, the firefighters could have a rescue
competition. I have never taken lesons in cooking.

Driving, I would love to but do not have the means to do it safely.

Hiking, I did not know one existed. I currently do not have the equipment to
do it safely.

>
> Although I had to stop playing competitive soccer, I still like to improve
> at whatever I do. It's just that I don't feel a need for competition at
> everything. You probably feel the same.
>
> Pat in Tx
>
>

It is true that even I do not compete in everything, however, if I was asked
to do it, and I could do it safely, I would. Why not?

Micheal

Micheal Artindale

"Pat" <Orion@starrynight.com> wrote in message
news:5phb3aFqei9kU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> Anything you do, you shoudl doi it in some competition at least once. >
>
>
> Oh, Micheal, I was following you until the part about "anything you do..."
> That was a bit of an overreach, I think. Have you entered a cooking
> competition yet? Driving competition? Hiking competition? Some people
> like to compete, others don't. Some people talk of a "personal best" don't
> forget. They like to improve themselves.

If i enter a cooking competition, the firefighters could have a rescue
competition. I have never taken lesons in cooking.

Driving, I would love to but do not have the means to do it safely.

Hiking, I did not know one existed. I currently do not have the equipment to
do it safely.

>
> Although I had to stop playing competitive soccer, I still like to improve
> at whatever I do. It's just that I don't feel a need for competition at
> everything. You probably feel the same.
>
> Pat in Tx
>
>

It is true that even I do not compete in everything, however, if I was asked
to do it, and I could do it safely, I would. Why not?

Micheal

Micheal Artindale

"Pat" <Orion@starrynight.com> wrote in message
news:5phb3aFqei9kU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> Anything you do, you shoudl doi it in some competition at least once. >
>
>
> Oh, Micheal, I was following you until the part about "anything you do..."
> That was a bit of an overreach, I think. Have you entered a cooking
> competition yet? Driving competition? Hiking competition? Some people
> like to compete, others don't. Some people talk of a "personal best" don't
> forget. They like to improve themselves.

If i enter a cooking competition, the firefighters could have a rescue
competition. I have never taken lesons in cooking.

Driving, I would love to but do not have the means to do it safely.

Hiking, I did not know one existed. I currently do not have the equipment to
do it safely.

>
> Although I had to stop playing competitive soccer, I still like to improve
> at whatever I do. It's just that I don't feel a need for competition at
> everything. You probably feel the same.
>
> Pat in Tx
>
>

It is true that even I do not compete in everything, however, if I was asked
to do it, and I could do it safely, I would. Why not?

Micheal

Ian Emmett

Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:Y_adnTRvCNhE1qzaRVnyvwA@giganews.com...
>> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>>> "mwsmith" <nomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:HK2dnZ72koMI9K3aRVnyggA@giganews.com...
>>>> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>>> "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:jbLXi.29853$XF6.11562@edtnps90...
>>>>>> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5p9644Fqe6c9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:IP6Xi.2738$h57.1015@edtnps89...
>>>>>>>> Today, Nov 3, was my first race with a masters team. It was also my
>>>>>>>> first race in 10 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I swam 2 events.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) 50m Free, this is the only event I have raced, which was 10 years
>>>>>>>> ago. The last time I did it my time was about 45 seconds. Today, I
>>>>>>>> had a time of 43:50 Seconds. I am happy with the fact that I did
>>>>>>>> better than before. As long as my next meet, i get faster, I am
>>>>>>>> happy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) 100m IM. I have never raced it before. I have never raced Fly
>>>>>>>> before. My time was 2:02:32. I am happy that I finished.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will be posting both events on my facebook page. I am the only
>>>>>>>> Micheal Artindale there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you take a look, let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Micheal
>>>>>>> Nice job, Micheal. You entered, you showed up, you didn't get DQ'ed
>>>>>>> on anything - that's all good, and it puts you ahead of most people
>>>>>>> who don't take the time to show up and compete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -S-
>>>>>>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, The only thing that I cared about with this race was that I
>>>>>> finished and not get DQed. I never want to see a DNF or a DQ beside my
>>>>>> name for any event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am looking forward to the next one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Micheal
>>>>> No one wants to be disqualified, but if you do enough it will happen
>>>>> eventually, as none of us is perfect - even the judges! Don't let it
>>>>> worry you too much, just keep coming back. There is never any disgrace
>>>>> in failure or defeat - only in not trying.
>>>> Are you then also saying that people who join masters teams for fitness
>>>> and fellowship are a disgrace to swimming?
>>> I will ask you a very simple question.
>>>
>>> If you own a car that among its features can do over 300km/hr and you
>>> never get it up to that speed. You never take it to a track, you never
>>> take it a highway that you can do that speed. Are you using it to its
>>> fullest?
>> Taking it to the track is like going to the pool for a workout, yes? A
>> fitness swimming workout is like that.
>>
>>> What about if it has 4 wheel drive, and you never take it off paved
>>> roads?
>> Taking it off-road is like going to the pool for a workout, yes?
>
> No. racing in a meet and showing what you can do is like taking it off road.
> although they do not say it, the practices are designed to help you get
> effiicient, and faster. Why would that be done?
>
>> A fitness swimming workout is like that.
>
> Nope
>
>>> Personally, Although it is not a disgrace, it is sad. Anything you do,
>>> you shoudl doi it in some competition at least once. I may do a diving
>>> competition in the spring. I need to find out if I can enter it.
>> You have just made competing a moral issue. Wow.
>
> Please esplain Mr Psycologist.
>
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>> You have on many occations shown that you are a troll.
>>>
>>> I will comment, it is more for my humour.
>>>
>>> Micheal
>>>
>>>
>> Micheal, you don't seem to understand the subject.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
> Well... The original subject was me letting everyone here know that I did a
> race, and how I did on it. I even have video, and there is a website with
> the results.
>
> What am I not understanding? It is you who may not be understanding.
>
> But I could be wrong.
>
> Micheal
>
>

I think so. Well done mate. Keep at it..

Ian Emmett

Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:Y_adnTRvCNhE1qzaRVnyvwA@giganews.com...
>> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>>> "mwsmith" <nomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:HK2dnZ72koMI9K3aRVnyggA@giganews.com...
>>>> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>>> "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:jbLXi.29853$XF6.11562@edtnps90...
>>>>>> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5p9644Fqe6c9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:IP6Xi.2738$h57.1015@edtnps89...
>>>>>>>> Today, Nov 3, was my first race with a masters team. It was also my
>>>>>>>> first race in 10 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I swam 2 events.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) 50m Free, this is the only event I have raced, which was 10 years
>>>>>>>> ago. The last time I did it my time was about 45 seconds. Today, I
>>>>>>>> had a time of 43:50 Seconds. I am happy with the fact that I did
>>>>>>>> better than before. As long as my next meet, i get faster, I am
>>>>>>>> happy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) 100m IM. I have never raced it before. I have never raced Fly
>>>>>>>> before. My time was 2:02:32. I am happy that I finished.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will be posting both events on my facebook page. I am the only
>>>>>>>> Micheal Artindale there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you take a look, let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Micheal
>>>>>>> Nice job, Micheal. You entered, you showed up, you didn't get DQ'ed
>>>>>>> on anything - that's all good, and it puts you ahead of most people
>>>>>>> who don't take the time to show up and compete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -S-
>>>>>>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, The only thing that I cared about with this race was that I
>>>>>> finished and not get DQed. I never want to see a DNF or a DQ beside my
>>>>>> name for any event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am looking forward to the next one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Micheal
>>>>> No one wants to be disqualified, but if you do enough it will happen
>>>>> eventually, as none of us is perfect - even the judges! Don't let it
>>>>> worry you too much, just keep coming back. There is never any disgrace
>>>>> in failure or defeat - only in not trying.
>>>> Are you then also saying that people who join masters teams for fitness
>>>> and fellowship are a disgrace to swimming?
>>> I will ask you a very simple question.
>>>
>>> If you own a car that among its features can do over 300km/hr and you
>>> never get it up to that speed. You never take it to a track, you never
>>> take it a highway that you can do that speed. Are you using it to its
>>> fullest?
>> Taking it to the track is like going to the pool for a workout, yes? A
>> fitness swimming workout is like that.
>>
>>> What about if it has 4 wheel drive, and you never take it off paved
>>> roads?
>> Taking it off-road is like going to the pool for a workout, yes?
>
> No. racing in a meet and showing what you can do is like taking it off road.
> although they do not say it, the practices are designed to help you get
> effiicient, and faster. Why would that be done?
>
>> A fitness swimming workout is like that.
>
> Nope
>
>>> Personally, Although it is not a disgrace, it is sad. Anything you do,
>>> you shoudl doi it in some competition at least once. I may do a diving
>>> competition in the spring. I need to find out if I can enter it.
>> You have just made competing a moral issue. Wow.
>
> Please esplain Mr Psycologist.
>
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>> You have on many occations shown that you are a troll.
>>>
>>> I will comment, it is more for my humour.
>>>
>>> Micheal
>>>
>>>
>> Micheal, you don't seem to understand the subject.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
> Well... The original subject was me letting everyone here know that I did a
> race, and how I did on it. I even have video, and there is a website with
> the results.
>
> What am I not understanding? It is you who may not be understanding.
>
> But I could be wrong.
>
> Micheal
>
>

I think so. Well done mate. Keep at it..

Ian Emmett

Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:Y_adnTRvCNhE1qzaRVnyvwA@giganews.com...
>> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>>> "mwsmith" <nomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:HK2dnZ72koMI9K3aRVnyggA@giganews.com...
>>>> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>>> "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:jbLXi.29853$XF6.11562@edtnps90...
>>>>>> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5p9644Fqe6c9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:IP6Xi.2738$h57.1015@edtnps89...
>>>>>>>> Today, Nov 3, was my first race with a masters team. It was also my
>>>>>>>> first race in 10 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I swam 2 events.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) 50m Free, this is the only event I have raced, which was 10 years
>>>>>>>> ago. The last time I did it my time was about 45 seconds. Today, I
>>>>>>>> had a time of 43:50 Seconds. I am happy with the fact that I did
>>>>>>>> better than before. As long as my next meet, i get faster, I am
>>>>>>>> happy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) 100m IM. I have never raced it before. I have never raced Fly
>>>>>>>> before. My time was 2:02:32. I am happy that I finished.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will be posting both events on my facebook page. I am the only
>>>>>>>> Micheal Artindale there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you take a look, let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Micheal
>>>>>>> Nice job, Micheal. You entered, you showed up, you didn't get DQ'ed
>>>>>>> on anything - that's all good, and it puts you ahead of most people
>>>>>>> who don't take the time to show up and compete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -S-
>>>>>>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, The only thing that I cared about with this race was that I
>>>>>> finished and not get DQed. I never want to see a DNF or a DQ beside my
>>>>>> name for any event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am looking forward to the next one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Micheal
>>>>> No one wants to be disqualified, but if you do enough it will happen
>>>>> eventually, as none of us is perfect - even the judges! Don't let it
>>>>> worry you too much, just keep coming back. There is never any disgrace
>>>>> in failure or defeat - only in not trying.
>>>> Are you then also saying that people who join masters teams for fitness
>>>> and fellowship are a disgrace to swimming?
>>> I will ask you a very simple question.
>>>
>>> If you own a car that among its features can do over 300km/hr and you
>>> never get it up to that speed. You never take it to a track, you never
>>> take it a highway that you can do that speed. Are you using it to its
>>> fullest?
>> Taking it to the track is like going to the pool for a workout, yes? A
>> fitness swimming workout is like that.
>>
>>> What about if it has 4 wheel drive, and you never take it off paved
>>> roads?
>> Taking it off-road is like going to the pool for a workout, yes?
>
> No. racing in a meet and showing what you can do is like taking it off road.
> although they do not say it, the practices are designed to help you get
> effiicient, and faster. Why would that be done?
>
>> A fitness swimming workout is like that.
>
> Nope
>
>>> Personally, Although it is not a disgrace, it is sad. Anything you do,
>>> you shoudl doi it in some competition at least once. I may do a diving
>>> competition in the spring. I need to find out if I can enter it.
>> You have just made competing a moral issue. Wow.
>
> Please esplain Mr Psycologist.
>
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>> You have on many occations shown that you are a troll.
>>>
>>> I will comment, it is more for my humour.
>>>
>>> Micheal
>>>
>>>
>> Micheal, you don't seem to understand the subject.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
> Well... The original subject was me letting everyone here know that I did a
> race, and how I did on it. I even have video, and there is a website with
> the results.
>
> What am I not understanding? It is you who may not be understanding.
>
> But I could be wrong.
>
> Micheal
>
>

I think so. Well done mate. Keep at it..

Duncan Heenan

"mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:z4mdnaPnF7h01K7anZ2dnUVZ8qjinZ2d@giganews.com...
> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>
>>
>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't
>>> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication and
>>> intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work hard
>>> without your adrenalin rush?
>>
>> I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal.
>
> Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people who
> don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace.

Read what I actually said, not what you wish I said.
--
Duncan Heenan
(Speaking personally)

mwsmith

Duncan Heenan wrote:
>
>
> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:z4mdnaPnF7h01K7anZ2dnUVZ8qjinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you aren't
>>>> trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the dedication
>>>> and intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You can't work
>>>> hard without your adrenalin rush?
>>>
>>> I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal.
>>
>> Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said people
>> who don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace.
>
> Read what I actually said, not what you wish I said.

I read it, Duncan. If you are seriously claiming I'm a troll, you should
put me in your killfile. Or at least stop responding to anything I
write. Only an idiot responds to a troll.

Steve Freides

"mwsmith" <nomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:cYCdnQcvM6MvyaXanZ2dnUVZ8tbinZ2d@giganews.com...
> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>
>>
>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:z4mdnaPnF7h01K7anZ2dnUVZ8qjinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xuydnf3JnJSQWa_anZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>>> snip < Well, then Duncan says you're a disgrace, because you
>>>>> aren't trying in your workouts. And you don't really have the
>>>>> dedication and intestinal fortitude Steve was talking about. You
>>>>> can't work hard without your adrenalin rush?
>>>>
>>>> I said nothing of the sort, neither did Micheal.
>>>
>>> Yes you did. Micheal doesn't try hard in his workouts. You said
>>> people who don't try hard in workouts are a disgrace.
>>
>> Read what I actually said, not what you wish I said.
>
> I read it, Duncan. If you are seriously claiming I'm a troll, you
> should put me in your killfile. Or at least stop responding to
> anything I write. Only an idiot responds to a troll.

I killfiled you, and you're back again - you're using a different email
address. Time to killfile this one, too, I guess.

-S-