Evangelical Disconnect

Originally Posted by Crankyfeet

I don't know why. Perhaps he knew through his intelligence sources that the US didn't intend to take Baghdad, or occupy the country.

How much of a hero to the Arab world would he have been if he nuked Tel Aviv and Jerusalem? Would the US have responded by nuking the whole of Iraq? Would Saddam have really cared if he thought he was going to die... or had committed suicide. Do we really know how a psychopathic, power hungry, dictator is going to act when we storm his palace and he has a red button on his desk that can wipe out a country only a couple of hundred miles away that the Arab world would hail him as a hero for doing?

They knew he didn't have weapons of mass destruction. However if they prefaced the attack on "We're worried he might be developing WMDs", they would never have got it past the American people or the UN. It was a big lie to justify what they wanted to do IMO.

Originally Posted by garage sale GT

Actually, people get their heads cut off for politics or crime, too. Ever heard of King Louis XVI? Hostages are taken and killed for a variety of reasons.

I would say the fact that people wanted their land was "used as a rationale for nearly wiping out the entire indigenous population of North America".

Originally Posted by garage sale GT

I guess we're dealing with one of the finest military minds on the message boards. Let me put it to you: Don't you think Israel might have nuked them?

Originally Posted by garage sale GT

So, what invasion was Bro Deal referring to? Where else have we invaded, where hundreds of thousands have died?

Besides Afghanistan, a country which housed the terrorist organization which killed 3000 New Yorkers, of course. Tell me, what country was he referring to?

Originally Posted by limerickman

I don't know what region Brodeal was referring to.

BUT YOU MADE THE ASSUMPTION THAT BRODEAL WAS REFERRING TO IRAQ.

Originally Posted by garage sale GT

I think it's called a logical deduction, though.

Originally Posted by Crankyfeet

I thought Bro Deal said "invading other countrIES". I am having difficulty interpreting that as being a direct reference to just one country... Iraq.

Originally Posted by garage sale GT

When I said "deduction", that means you eliminate the other possibilities. It is pronounced de-duk-shun. This is kind of how it works:

Since he cited hundreds of thousands dead and the toll in Afghanistan is nowhere near that high, he didn't mean Afghanistan, although civilian deaths are always tragic in any numbers.

Since the taliban government supported and housed Al-quaeda, who attacked Manhattan killing 3000 US citizens, I did not believe anyone would claim our counterattack against Afghanistan constituted a war against islam.

Are you making the point that he could have meant some other country which we are not invading but which he erroneously thought we were invading? I suppose that would be a valid point on this thread.

Originally Posted by Crankyfeet

I have to retract my earlier statement... Lim is right... You mentioned Iraq first. If Bro was specifically referring to Iraq... he wouldn't have used the plural "countries".

He may have had Iraq as part of his set of countries, but you directed the discussion to Iraq specifically.

Originally Posted by garage sale GT

Oh, boy. I am so embarrassed. You two are playing with me to see how long you can keep me answering your silly objections! Touche'.

That's an interesting angle. "you can't prove to me I'm wrong! I don't know enough!"

Originally Posted by Crankyfeet

Well, you've either been played like a preschooler, or you mentioned Iraq first as previously shown... you take your pick...

Originally Posted by garage sale GT

If you're serious, who else did he mean? Elbonia?

Originally Posted by Crankyfeet

How many times does this have to be explained?

He was talking generally about ALL the countries that have been invaded, which most likely INCLUDES Iraq.

YOU CHOSE TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT IRAQ.


To use a hypothetical analogy... If I was to refer generally to all Christian religious denominations that have persecuted non-believers... and in the next post, you started talking about the Catholic Church specifically... I think it would be you who first mentioned Catholics, not me.