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10-11.-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: My videos
Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "Mark P" <usenet@fall2005REMOVE.fastmailCAPS.fm> wrote in message > news:0Q4Zi.3504$852.81@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >>> news:OOSdnQx0dL34Sa7aRVnyhAA@giganews.com... >>>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>>> Here are the 2 videos >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >>>>> >>>>> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >>>> I didn't see anything to pick at, except your crawlstroke shortens up >>>> when you get tired. You have to be mindful of reaching out on each >>>> stroke. >>> Thanks, I do know that I do that, it is tring to keep reaching. >>> >>> Micheal >> You look a little flat in the water too. I don't see much shoulder >> rotation, for example. And, of course, you need to learn to do a flip >> turn. > > With regards to my flip turns, they are so horrible that they do not make my > turns faster. I will be working on them. > Well here's one tip which I think resolves a lot of problems experienced by beginners. You have to approach the wall before you start the flip with your hands down at your sides (as opposed to ahead of you in a streamlined position). This is necessary so that you can then swing your arms up and over your head to drive the rotation of your body. |
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10-11.-2007, 10:59 AM
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Re: My videos
I noticed you breathe from the right side. I always breathe from the left. I
assume I started that way when I was a kid, and it is so ingrained I can't change it without focused thought. I only bring this up because I am trying to breathe with equal comfort from both sides for open water swims in triathlons-I'm thinking there might be times when waves/currents would make it more prudent to breathe from the right side. Anybody have any suggestions? I've been doing pool work and try to throw in right side breaths, but it sends my form all to hell-I'm actually pausing to turn my head and breathe. It just feels counterintuitive. "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message news:c9MYi.33761$XF6.19399@edtnps90... > Here are the 2 videos > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM > > Pick away at it, I know some of my faults > > Micheal > |
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10-11.-2007, 10:59 AM
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Re: My videos
I noticed you breathe from the right side. I always breathe from the left. I
assume I started that way when I was a kid, and it is so ingrained I can't change it without focused thought. I only bring this up because I am trying to breathe with equal comfort from both sides for open water swims in triathlons-I'm thinking there might be times when waves/currents would make it more prudent to breathe from the right side. Anybody have any suggestions? I've been doing pool work and try to throw in right side breaths, but it sends my form all to hell-I'm actually pausing to turn my head and breathe. It just feels counterintuitive. "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message news:c9MYi.33761$XF6.19399@edtnps90... > Here are the 2 videos > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM > > Pick away at it, I know some of my faults > > Micheal > |
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10-11.-2007, 10:59 AM
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Re: My videos
I noticed you breathe from the right side. I always breathe from the left. I
assume I started that way when I was a kid, and it is so ingrained I can't change it without focused thought. I only bring this up because I am trying to breathe with equal comfort from both sides for open water swims in triathlons-I'm thinking there might be times when waves/currents would make it more prudent to breathe from the right side. Anybody have any suggestions? I've been doing pool work and try to throw in right side breaths, but it sends my form all to hell-I'm actually pausing to turn my head and breathe. It just feels counterintuitive. "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message news:c9MYi.33761$XF6.19399@edtnps90... > Here are the 2 videos > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM > > Pick away at it, I know some of my faults > > Micheal > |
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10-11.-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: My videos
"Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:rW4Zi.11316$8S5.9918@edtnps82... > > "Mark P" <usenet@fall2005REMOVE.fastmailCAPS.fm> wrote in message > news:0Q4Zi.3504$852.81@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >>> news:OOSdnQx0dL34Sa7aRVnyhAA@giganews.com... >>>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>>> Here are the 2 videos >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >>>>> >>>>> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >>>> I didn't see anything to pick at, except your crawlstroke shortens >>>> up when you get tired. You have to be mindful of reaching out on >>>> each stroke. >>> >>> Thanks, I do know that I do that, it is tring to keep reaching. >>> >>> Micheal >> >> You look a little flat in the water too. I don't see much shoulder >> rotation, for example. And, of course, you need to learn to do a >> flip turn. > > With regards to my flip turns, they are so horrible that they do not > make my turns faster. I will be working on them. > > Micheal The best advice ever given me about flip turns was simple - do them always in front crawl, don't do any open turns, and you'll get better. I took a flip turn clinic at my local Y, and that's what the teacher told me after I complained that I could sort of do a flip turn and hadn't gotten better in the last year. He asked how often I did them, and I said a few times a practice. Once I started doing them in all my front crawl, they got much better. -S- |
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10-11.-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: My videos
"Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:rW4Zi.11316$8S5.9918@edtnps82... > > "Mark P" <usenet@fall2005REMOVE.fastmailCAPS.fm> wrote in message > news:0Q4Zi.3504$852.81@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >>> news:OOSdnQx0dL34Sa7aRVnyhAA@giganews.com... >>>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>>> Here are the 2 videos >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >>>>> >>>>> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >>>> I didn't see anything to pick at, except your crawlstroke shortens >>>> up when you get tired. You have to be mindful of reaching out on >>>> each stroke. >>> >>> Thanks, I do know that I do that, it is tring to keep reaching. >>> >>> Micheal >> >> You look a little flat in the water too. I don't see much shoulder >> rotation, for example. And, of course, you need to learn to do a >> flip turn. > > With regards to my flip turns, they are so horrible that they do not > make my turns faster. I will be working on them. > > Micheal The best advice ever given me about flip turns was simple - do them always in front crawl, don't do any open turns, and you'll get better. I took a flip turn clinic at my local Y, and that's what the teacher told me after I complained that I could sort of do a flip turn and hadn't gotten better in the last year. He asked how often I did them, and I said a few times a practice. Once I started doing them in all my front crawl, they got much better. -S- |
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10-11.-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: My videos
"Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:rW4Zi.11316$8S5.9918@edtnps82... > > "Mark P" <usenet@fall2005REMOVE.fastmailCAPS.fm> wrote in message > news:0Q4Zi.3504$852.81@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >>> news:OOSdnQx0dL34Sa7aRVnyhAA@giganews.com... >>>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>>> Here are the 2 videos >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >>>>> >>>>> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >>>> I didn't see anything to pick at, except your crawlstroke shortens >>>> up when you get tired. You have to be mindful of reaching out on >>>> each stroke. >>> >>> Thanks, I do know that I do that, it is tring to keep reaching. >>> >>> Micheal >> >> You look a little flat in the water too. I don't see much shoulder >> rotation, for example. And, of course, you need to learn to do a >> flip turn. > > With regards to my flip turns, they are so horrible that they do not > make my turns faster. I will be working on them. > > Micheal The best advice ever given me about flip turns was simple - do them always in front crawl, don't do any open turns, and you'll get better. I took a flip turn clinic at my local Y, and that's what the teacher told me after I complained that I could sort of do a flip turn and hadn't gotten better in the last year. He asked how often I did them, and I said a few times a practice. Once I started doing them in all my front crawl, they got much better. -S- |
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10-11.-2007, 12:43 PM
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Re: My videos
"KV" <kvaughn3@verizon.net> wrote in message
news  n7Zi.1558$CI1.849@trnddc03...>I noticed you breathe from the right side. I always breathe from the >left. I assume I started that way when I was a kid, and it is so >ingrained I can't change it without focused thought. I only bring this >up because I am trying to breathe with equal comfort from both sides >for open water swims in triathlons-I'm thinking there might be times >when waves/currents would make it more prudent to breathe from the >right side. Anybody have any suggestions? I've been doing pool work and >try to throw in right side breaths, but it sends my form all to >hell-I'm actually pausing to turn my head and breathe. It just feels >counterintuitive. > > "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message > news:c9MYi.33761$XF6.19399@edtnps90... >> Here are the 2 videos >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >> >> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >> >> Micheal The way I learned to breath on both sides - not saying it's the best way, just the way I did it - was to make myself always breath facing the lifeguard chair, which meant I swam one lap breathing right and the next lap breathing left. After enough of that, it wasn't terribly hard to transition to bilateral (both sides, every three arms) breathing. -S- |
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10-11.-2007, 12:43 PM
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Re: My videos
"KV" <kvaughn3@verizon.net> wrote in message
news n7Zi.1558$CI1.849@trnddc03...>I noticed you breathe from the right side. I always breathe from the >left. I assume I started that way when I was a kid, and it is so >ingrained I can't change it without focused thought. I only bring this >up because I am trying to breathe with equal comfort from both sides >for open water swims in triathlons-I'm thinking there might be times >when waves/currents would make it more prudent to breathe from the >right side. Anybody have any suggestions? I've been doing pool work and >try to throw in right side breaths, but it sends my form all to >hell-I'm actually pausing to turn my head and breathe. It just feels >counterintuitive. > > "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message > news:c9MYi.33761$XF6.19399@edtnps90... >> Here are the 2 videos >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >> >> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >> >> Micheal The way I learned to breath on both sides - not saying it's the best way, just the way I did it - was to make myself always breath facing the lifeguard chair, which meant I swam one lap breathing right and the next lap breathing left. After enough of that, it wasn't terribly hard to transition to bilateral (both sides, every three arms) breathing. -S- |
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10-11.-2007, 12:43 PM
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Re: My videos
"KV" <kvaughn3@verizon.net> wrote in message
news n7Zi.1558$CI1.849@trnddc03...>I noticed you breathe from the right side. I always breathe from the >left. I assume I started that way when I was a kid, and it is so >ingrained I can't change it without focused thought. I only bring this >up because I am trying to breathe with equal comfort from both sides >for open water swims in triathlons-I'm thinking there might be times >when waves/currents would make it more prudent to breathe from the >right side. Anybody have any suggestions? I've been doing pool work and >try to throw in right side breaths, but it sends my form all to >hell-I'm actually pausing to turn my head and breathe. It just feels >counterintuitive. > > "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message > news:c9MYi.33761$XF6.19399@edtnps90... >> Here are the 2 videos >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >> >> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >> >> Micheal The way I learned to breath on both sides - not saying it's the best way, just the way I did it - was to make myself always breath facing the lifeguard chair, which meant I swam one lap breathing right and the next lap breathing left. After enough of that, it wasn't terribly hard to transition to bilateral (both sides, every three arms) breathing. -S- |
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10-11.-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: My videos
"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message news:5pkjs5Frlbl2U1@mid.individual.net... > "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message > news:rW4Zi.11316$8S5.9918@edtnps82... >> >> "Mark P" <usenet@fall2005REMOVE.fastmailCAPS.fm> wrote in message >> news:0Q4Zi.3504$852.81@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OOSdnQx0dL34Sa7aRVnyhAA@giganews.com... >>>>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>>>> Here are the 2 videos >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >>>>>> >>>>>> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >>>>> I didn't see anything to pick at, except your crawlstroke shortens up >>>>> when you get tired. You have to be mindful of reaching out on each >>>>> stroke. >>>> >>>> Thanks, I do know that I do that, it is tring to keep reaching. >>>> >>>> Micheal >>> >>> You look a little flat in the water too. I don't see much shoulder >>> rotation, for example. And, of course, you need to learn to do a flip >>> turn. >> >> With regards to my flip turns, they are so horrible that they do not make >> my turns faster. I will be working on them. >> >> Micheal > > The best advice ever given me about flip turns was simple - do them always > in front crawl, don't do any open turns, and you'll get better. I took a > flip turn clinic at my local Y, and that's what the teacher told me after > I complained that I could sort of do a flip turn and hadn't gotten better > in the last year. He asked how often I did them, and I said a few times a > practice. Once I started doing them in all my front crawl, they got much > better. So, no matter how bad it is, just do them and nothing else when I turn in free? That will be fun.... Micheal |
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10-11.-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: My videos
"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message news:5pkjs5Frlbl2U1@mid.individual.net... > "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message > news:rW4Zi.11316$8S5.9918@edtnps82... >> >> "Mark P" <usenet@fall2005REMOVE.fastmailCAPS.fm> wrote in message >> news:0Q4Zi.3504$852.81@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OOSdnQx0dL34Sa7aRVnyhAA@giganews.com... >>>>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>>>> Here are the 2 videos >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >>>>>> >>>>>> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >>>>> I didn't see anything to pick at, except your crawlstroke shortens up >>>>> when you get tired. You have to be mindful of reaching out on each >>>>> stroke. >>>> >>>> Thanks, I do know that I do that, it is tring to keep reaching. >>>> >>>> Micheal >>> >>> You look a little flat in the water too. I don't see much shoulder >>> rotation, for example. And, of course, you need to learn to do a flip >>> turn. >> >> With regards to my flip turns, they are so horrible that they do not make >> my turns faster. I will be working on them. >> >> Micheal > > The best advice ever given me about flip turns was simple - do them always > in front crawl, don't do any open turns, and you'll get better. I took a > flip turn clinic at my local Y, and that's what the teacher told me after > I complained that I could sort of do a flip turn and hadn't gotten better > in the last year. He asked how often I did them, and I said a few times a > practice. Once I started doing them in all my front crawl, they got much > better. So, no matter how bad it is, just do them and nothing else when I turn in free? That will be fun.... Micheal |
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10-11.-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: My videos
"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message news:5pkjs5Frlbl2U1@mid.individual.net... > "Micheal Artindale" <michealartindale@eastlink.ca> wrote in message > news:rW4Zi.11316$8S5.9918@edtnps82... >> >> "Mark P" <usenet@fall2005REMOVE.fastmailCAPS.fm> wrote in message >> news:0Q4Zi.3504$852.81@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>> "mwsmith" <nowhere@nomail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OOSdnQx0dL34Sa7aRVnyhAA@giganews.com... >>>>> Micheal Artindale wrote: >>>>>> Here are the 2 videos >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus 100IM >>>>>> >>>>>> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults >>>>> I didn't see anything to pick at, except your crawlstroke shortens up >>>>> when you get tired. You have to be mindful of reaching out on each >>>>> stroke. >>>> >>>> Thanks, I do know that I do that, it is tring to keep reaching. >>>> >>>> Micheal >>> >>> You look a little flat in the water too. I don't see much shoulder >>> rotation, for example. And, of course, you need to learn to do a flip >>> turn. >> >> With regards to my flip turns, they are so horrible that they do not make >> my turns faster. I will be working on them. >> >> Micheal > > The best advice ever given me about flip turns was simple - do them always > in front crawl, don't do any open turns, and you'll get better. I took a > flip turn clinic at my local Y, and that's what the teacher told me after > I complained that I could sort of do a flip turn and hadn't gotten better > in the last year. He asked how often I did them, and I said a few times a > practice. Once I started doing them in all my front crawl, they got much > better. So, no matter how bad it is, just do them and nothing else when I turn in free? That will be fun.... Micheal |
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10-11.-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: My videos
On Nov 9, 6:53 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <michealartind...@eastlink.ca>
wrote: > "Steve Freides" <st...@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message > > news:5pkjs5Frlbl2U1@mid.individual.net... > > > > > > > "Micheal Artindale" <michealartind...@eastlink.ca> wrote in message > >news:rW4Zi.11316$8S5.9918@edtnps82... > > >> "Mark P" <use...@fall2005REMOVE.fastmailCAPS.fm> wrote in message > >>news:0Q4Zi.3504$852.81@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... > >>> Micheal Artindale wrote: > >>>> "mwsmith" <nowh...@nomail.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:OOSdnQx0dL34Sa7aRVnyhAA@giganews.com... > >>>>> Micheal Artindale wrote: > >>>>>> Here are the 2 videos > > >>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free > > >>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus100IM > > >>>>>> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults > >>>>> I didn't see anything to pick at, except your crawlstroke shortens up > >>>>> when you get tired. You have to be mindful of reaching out on each > >>>>> stroke. > > >>>> Thanks, I do know that I do that, it is tring to keep reaching. > > >>>> Micheal > > >>> You look a little flat in the water too. I don't see much shoulder > >>> rotation, for example. And, of course, you need to learn to do a flip > >>> turn. > > >> With regards to my flip turns, they are so horrible that they do not make > >> my turns faster. I will be working on them. > > >> Micheal > > > The best advice ever given me about flip turns was simple - do them always > > in front crawl, don't do any open turns, and you'll get better. I took a > > flip turn clinic at my local Y, and that's what the teacher told me after > > I complained that I could sort of do a flip turn and hadn't gotten better > > in the last year. He asked how often I did them, and I said a few times a > > practice. Once I started doing them in all my front crawl, they got much > > better. > > So, no matter how bad it is, just do them and nothing else when I turn in > free? > > That will be fun.... > > Micheal- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Yes, just doing them helps quite a bit, but without good technique, you could end up crashing into the lane lines or coming up in the next lane. To improve your flip turns, do nothing but flip turns in freestyle for a couple weeks. It may be embarrassing, but it is worth it. When you have good flip turn fitness, pay for a private flip turn lesson. Even among advanced competitive swimmers, there seem to be 2 schools of flip turn. A. You get near the edge and follow the leading arm into the turn. B. One arm waits down at your side for the other to catch it, then with both palms facing forward, you bend your elbows as if you were trying to throw the water up and behind you. This helps pull you into your turn quickly and straight. Make sure that the instructor is one who will teach you method B, as Mark P suggests. Taking apart your flip turn and practicing each part in succession is helpful. You generally can't do that at workout. If you are trying to do this on your own without an instructor, here is a progression of steps. 1) Stand in the water with arms at your side and palms facing forward. Bend your elbows, throwing the water up and behind you. 2) Use this technique to help you do a flip in place in the water, starting and ending facing the same direction. 3) Try it swimming into the wall and pushing off the wall coming up on your back. 4) Once you are good at this, add turning on to your front after you push off the wall. --Betsy |
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10-11.-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: My videos
On Nov 9, 6:53 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <michealartind...@eastlink.ca>
wrote: > "Steve Freides" <st...@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message > > news:5pkjs5Frlbl2U1@mid.individual.net... > > > > > > > "Micheal Artindale" <michealartind...@eastlink.ca> wrote in message > >news:rW4Zi.11316$8S5.9918@edtnps82... > > >> "Mark P" <use...@fall2005REMOVE.fastmailCAPS.fm> wrote in message > >>news:0Q4Zi.3504$852.81@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... > >>> Micheal Artindale wrote: > >>>> "mwsmith" <nowh...@nomail.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:OOSdnQx0dL34Sa7aRVnyhAA@giganews.com... > >>>>> Micheal Artindale wrote: > >>>>>> Here are the 2 videos > > >>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIxNDgUhLg 50 free > > >>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zI4CtXMus100IM > > >>>>>> Pick away at it, I know some of my faults > >>>>> I didn't see anything to pick at, except your crawlstroke shortens up > >>>>> when you get tired. You have to be mindful of reaching out on each > >>>>> stroke. > > >>>> Thanks, I do know that I do that, it is tring to keep reaching. > > >>>> Micheal > > >>> You look a little flat in the water too. I don't see much shoulder > >>> rotation, for example. And, of course, you need to learn to do a flip > >>> turn. > > >> With regards to my flip turns, they are so horrible that they do not make > >> my turns faster. I will be working on them. > > >> Micheal > > > The best advice ever given me about flip turns was simple - do them always > > in front crawl, don't do any open turns, and you'll get better. I took a > > flip turn clinic at my local Y, and that's what the teacher told me after > > I complained that I could sort of do a flip turn and hadn't gotten better > > in the last year. He asked how often I did them, and I said a few times a > > practice. Once I started doing them in all my front crawl, they got much > > better. > > So, no matter how bad it is, just do them and nothing else when I turn in > free? > > That will be fun.... > > Micheal- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Yes, just doing them helps quite a bit, but without good technique, you could end up crashing into the lane lines or coming up in the next lane. To improve your flip turns, do nothing but flip turns in freestyle for a couple weeks. It may be embarrassing, but it is worth it. When you have good flip turn fitness, pay for a private flip turn lesson. Even among advanced competitive swimmers, there seem to be 2 schools of flip turn. A. You get near the edge and follow the leading arm into the turn. B. One arm waits down at your side for the other to catch it, then with both palms facing forward, you bend your elbows as if you were trying to throw the water up and behind you. This helps pull you into your turn quickly and straight. Make sure that the instructor is one who will teach you method B, as Mark P suggests. Taking apart your flip turn and practicing each part in succession is helpful. You generally can't do that at workout. If you are trying to do this on your own without an instructor, here is a progression of steps. 1) Stand in the water with arms at your side and palms facing forward. Bend your elbows, throwing the water up and behind you. 2) Use this technique to help you do a flip in place in the water, starting and ending facing the same direction. 3) Try it swimming into the wall and pushing off the wall coming up on your back. 4) Once you are good at this, add turning on to your front after you push off the wall. --Betsy |
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