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Old 22-11.-2007, 06:53 AM   #16
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www.yellowjersey.org they can build up with your existing hubs for about a $100 each with the Velocity Aerohead and Aero OC...looked it up and for an additional $300 you can go to ceramic bearings (wish I had thought of that when I had mine built).
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Old 21-04.-2008, 12:00 PM   #17
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Just an update. Thanks everyone for your advice. I went with a set of Velocity/Velocity OC built by Dave Ornee. After finally getting a chance to get some miles in on them, I must say I am very impressed. My CAAD8 has never felt smoother, and these babies climb, corner, roll, sprint and do everything as well or better than my 2005 Eurus' when they were new. In fact the lower profile is perfect for the cross winds. Great decision, and now I want another set.

By the way, Dave had them back to me in less than a week. I can't begin to describe how well packaged they were too. There was 0% chance that these things were coming back with even the slightest scratch.
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Old 21-04.-2008, 12:17 PM   #18
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Good news.
Keep an eye out for fatigue cracks on the rear rim - I weigh a little less than you and I managed to create little splits running along the Aerohead OC rim just below the spoke holes with less than 10,000km use. I had big problems with spoke breakages, however, so the repeated cycles of loading and unloading the spoke holes may have created the fatigue problem.
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Old 21-04.-2008, 09:09 PM   #19
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Good news.
Keep an eye out for fatigue cracks on the rear rim - I weigh a little less than you and I managed to create little splits running along the Aerohead OC rim just below the spoke holes with less than 10,000km use. I had big problems with spoke breakages, however, so the repeated cycles of loading and unloading the spoke holes may have created the fatigue problem.



Time will tell on the rim durability, but part of the reason I went with handbuilts is for the easy replacement if something does get damaged.
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Old 21-04.-2008, 10:30 PM   #20
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FWIW. I find it difficult to believe that Campagnolo is phasing out of their hubs ...

I believe the current (2007) inventory may have been in short supply ... and, most bike shops do NOT carry Campagnolo components, regardless, much less their hubs, so it may certainly seem as though Campagnolo is phasing out their hubs if you have difficulty finding them.

I believe Peter White prefers to provide the rims/spokes [that is, a reason that he guarantees his wheels is because he takes great care to match components] ... if you choose to supply YOUR own hubs, that's probably "okay" (and, probably a little less expensive if you don't count the shipping you've paid & will pay to get the hubs to him), but spec the rest of the components & he will provide them.

BTW. YOU can probably build a set of traditionally spoked wheels whch are almost as good as those turned out by many of the top wheel builders, and comparable to most, and better than some -- buy a PARK tensiometer (the least expensive that I know of AND better [i.e., easier to use] than some [e.g., Wheelsmith]), and you'll be good to go ...


2006 saw a really nice hub selection from Campagnolo. Minor differences of Record thru Centaur, all with nice design and aluminum axles. Enter 2007 and Record only with aluminum axles(AND 32 and 36h only-gone 28h), Chorus gone, Centaur now a relabeled veloce hub(nice hub but old design). Campagnolo wants you to buy their wheels, not hubs.

So, believe it. Campagnolo is reducing their hub offerings in a big way which is disappointing to this wheel builder. For the OP...If you are a pretty light rider in terms of technique-Velocity Aeroheads(OC rear), 14/15 spokes laced 3 cross rear and Revolution spokes front, laced 3 cross, assuming it's 32h.
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Old 21-04.-2008, 10:35 PM   #21
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www.yellowjersey.org they can build up with your existing hubs for about a $100 each with the Velocity Aerohead and Aero OC...looked it up and for an additional $300 you can go to ceramic bearings (wish I had thought of that when I had mine built).


'Blatant political statement!!"

C'mon, $300 for ceramic? Do ya think that's really worth the $? Studies have shown 'maybe' a 3 watt difference.
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Old 22-04.-2008, 06:54 AM   #22
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2006 saw a really nice hub selection from Campagnolo. Minor differences of Record thru Centaur, all with nice design and aluminum axles. Enter 2007 and Record only with aluminum axles(AND 32 and 36h only-gone 28h), Chorus gone, Centaur now a relabeled veloce hub(nice hub but old design). Campagnolo wants you to buy their wheels, not hubs.

So, believe it. Campagnolo is reducing their hub offerings in a big way which is disappointing to this wheel builder. For the OP...If you are a pretty light rider in terms of technique-Velocity Aeroheads(OC rear), 14/15 spokes laced 3 cross rear and Revolution spokes front, laced 3 cross, assuming it's 32h.
Okay -- thanks for the clarification. I've made a mental note for my future reference ...

But, most of the hubs that I've bought in the past half-dozen years have been either Shimano or Hugi (and, of course, DT hubs can be spec'd with Campy-compatible freehubs), so, I guess I can't express the same level of disappointment OTHER THAN for lack of choice in the future.
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Old 22-04.-2008, 10:38 PM   #23
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Okay -- thanks for the clarification. I've made a mental note for my future reference ...

But, most of the hubs that I've bought in the past half-dozen years have been either Shimano or Hugi (and, of course, DT hubs can be spec'd with Campy-compatible freehubs), so, I guess I can't express the same level of disappointment OTHER THAN for lack of choice in the future.


The ONLY aftermarket hub we like is DT. Very nice, lots of drillings and both freehub bodies. Samo for their rims..dbl eyelet 1.1 and the 1.2..wish they made a tubie rim.
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Old 23-04.-2008, 02:05 AM   #24
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Good luck in getting Peter White to return your e-mails (if that's the method of communication you plan on using). He just ignored mine, so to tell you the truth, I don't have much time for him.

Guess you didn't read his website very closely: White explicitly says that he doesn't answer email frequently, and that if you want to consult with him the best way to reach him is via that anachronistic devise from days of yore, the telephone.
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Guess you didn't read his website very closely: White explicitly says that he doesn't answer email frequently, and that if you want to consult with him the best way to reach him is via that anachronistic devise from days of yore, the telephone.

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