Sat Nav in Cars (Photo comment)

Bill Grey

In message <3130303031313434474F3EC589@nospam.zetnet.co.uk>, Roger
<roger@nospam.zetnet.co.uk> writes
>The message <24u5YlGM$yTHFw6V@graigroad.demon.co.uk>
>from Bill Grey <wdg@graigroad.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> You take /that/one at 50 - or your driver does - ?....Wow
>
>I did say rarely but that isn't an A road bend, it is a junction. I dare
>say the junction itself could be taken at 50. Unfortunately the
>Trecastle road has an immediate bend that precludes it.
>
Quite so. I misread your posting.
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Roger

The message <3130303031313434474D9D3B66@nospam.zetnet.co.uk>
from Roger <roger@nospam.zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:

> So, for those who still retain the ability to read a map (:-)) which
> route would you take from SN 844137 to SN 857100.

I finally got round to trying this problem in AA Milemaster. It sent me
the long way round. So I changed the preference to shortest route and it
still sent me the long way round. Clearly it has more sense than Garmin.
:-)

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Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

Dominic Sexton

In article <313030303131343447506CA381@nospam.zetnet.co.uk>, Roger
<roger@nospam.zetnet.co.uk> writes
>The message <3130303031313434474D9D3B66@nospam.zetnet.co.uk>
>from Roger <roger@nospam.zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> So, for those who still retain the ability to read a map (:-)) which
>> route would you take from SN 844137 to SN 857100.
>
>I finally got round to trying this problem in AA Milemaster. It sent me
>the long way round. So I changed the preference to shortest route and it
>still sent me the long way round. Clearly it has more sense than Garmin.
>:-)

Or less detail and doesn't know you could get through on the minor road
;-)


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Dominic Sexton

Paul Saunders

Roger wrote:

> That reminds me of an incident on the weekend Martin joined the
> Marilyn Hall of Fame. We were heading for some miserable little
> Marilyn to round the day off

Out of curiosity, which one?

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Paul Saunders

Terry Pinnell wrote:

> I'd choose the scenic route, past Henrhyd Falls and Tonyfildre. About
> 2.9 miles.

A pleasant drive...

> But I expect you're going to tell us the 4.6 mile main road
> route is three times faster!

At least!

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Paul Saunders

Roger wrote:

> 2.9 miles @ 20 mph should take 8 min 42 sec (but seems longer even
> before adding in the 5 minute delay occasioned by white van man).

20mph? I'm sure you can't go that fast on that road, not safely anyway.

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Paul Saunders

Terry Pinnell wrote:

> Even assuming no speed cameras around, I reckon a 55 mph average would
> be pretty good going.

It may be possible.

> No problems on the A4221,

No, that's easy, you can go much faster there, assuming you can accelerate
fast enough up the hill.

> but that first stretch
> down the A4067 looks a bit twisty,

That section is a royal pain in the arse. Sure, you can take it at a decent
speed if there's no other traffic around, but there's *always* someone
pootling along at 30MPH and there's *nowhere* to pass!

> with 7-8 roads/streets joining it,
> and wouldn't the two sharp lefts to join the A4221 take the average
> right down?

The streets joining it aren't a problem, but the reduced speed limits
through the two villages are.

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Paul Saunders

Roger wrote:

> I have a rule of thumb that says you rarely meet a bend on an A road
> that can't be taken at least 50. :-) I don't think there are any speed
> cameras as yet

Correct.

> but I had forgotten that some of that road is subject to
> the lower speed limits, although I can't recall exactly what and
> where.

Ynyswen and Pen-y-cae, 30MPH each.

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Roger

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> > That reminds me of an incident on the weekend Martin joined the
> > Marilyn Hall of Fame. We were heading for some miserable little
> > Marilyn to round the day off

> Out of curiosity, which one?

Hirfynydd SN 839076.

On reflection that might have been the penultimate Marilyn but I can't
find my Relative Hills so cannot check whether I am conflating 2 of the
days.

--
Roger Chapman
Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

Paul Saunders

Roger wrote:

>>> That reminds me of an incident on the weekend Martin joined the
>>> Marilyn Hall of Fame. We were heading for some miserable little
>>> Marilyn to round the day off
>
>> Out of curiosity, which one?
>
> Hirfynydd SN 839076.

I know a lot of people dislike that one, particularly if you take the short
route from the north (open cast coal mine and forestry), but I wouldn't call
it either miserable or little. It's one of the first hills I climbed and I
have good memories of it.

Hirfynydd means Long Mountain, and if you follow the ridge, it's about 10
miles long. At 481m high, that's not exactly small (it rises from
practically sea level, just 8m, at the south western end).

In spite of the forestry, there's a Roman Road running along almost the
entire ridge, and there's cliffs and waterfalls too if you know where to
look. The "bagging route" looks crap, but it does have some interest if you
plan a more careful, longer walk. Although I'm sure that most forest haters
wouldn't bother.

Paul
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Roger

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from "Paul Saunders" <pvs1@wildwales.fsnet.co.uk> contains these words:

> >>> That reminds me of an incident on the weekend Martin joined the
> >>> Marilyn Hall of Fame. We were heading for some miserable little
> >>> Marilyn to round the day off
> >
> >> Out of curiosity, which one?
> >
> > Hirfynydd SN 839076.

> I know a lot of people dislike that one, particularly if you take the short
> route from the north (open cast coal mine and forestry), but I
> wouldn't call
> it either miserable or little. It's one of the first hills I climbed and I
> have good memories of it.

We did it from the NE which IIRC was following the ridge.

> Hirfynydd means Long Mountain, and if you follow the ridge, it's about 10
> miles long. At 481m high, that's not exactly small (it rises from
> practically sea level, just 8m, at the south western end).

> In spite of the forestry, there's a Roman Road running along almost the
> entire ridge, and there's cliffs and waterfalls too if you know where to
> look. The "bagging route" looks crap, but it does have some interest if you
> plan a more careful, longer walk. Although I'm sure that most forest haters
> wouldn't bother.

I don't like being enclosed in forest or following industrial trackways
particularly in indifferent weather.

I was wrong with that being the last hill of the day. We followed it up
with Craig y Llyn which was even worse.

I still have 17 Marilyns undone in sections 32B and C and absolutely no
desire to do them as I presume they are all at least as dire as the 2
mentioned above.

--
Roger Chapman
Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.